From owner-vectorlist Tue Aug 1 14:16:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28542 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:16:54 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23944 for vectorlist-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:12:36 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000801110914.008ca3d0@earthlink.net> X-Sender: winslow@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:09:14 -0700 To: vectorlist From: Steven Winslow Subject: Re: VECTOR: Space Fury CPO In-Reply-To: <7C6EC429B136D411BE6100A0C981D39CAA9B@CTHQ1E01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Hello All ! I'm holding onto a very nice and clean NOS CPO. If Robert would like to use it to repro, I'm willing to donate (lend) to the cause. Just LMK. Steve At 01:28 PM 7/31/00 -0400, you wrote: >I saw this on Ebay this morning... > >I think it would be great if someone would repo it. >I sure could use a new one, but I would hate to waste >a NOS overlay on a CP when it could be used as an >example for repo. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=396547943 > > >Wasn't there someone on the list who was doing >a bunch overlays at a reasonable cost ? > > > > >Todd Miller, LAN Administrator >Ron Weber and Associates >103 E. State Street, Mason City, IA 50401 >(515)423-4293/(515)423-4594 FAX >http://www.telethinking.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >** questions, comments, or problems to neil . > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Tue Aug 1 15:09:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04392 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:09:24 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24214 for vectorlist-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:10:49 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: From: "Evrovski, Andrew" To: vectorlist Subject: VECTOR: Star Castle Monitor Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:56:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BFFBEA.29E97CF0" Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFBEA.29E97CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Folks, Anyone know the barnd and model on the B&W Vector Monitor used in star castle? I have 2 cocktail Stars Castles and they both have the same monitor, but I do not know how to tell what monitor it is. (Nothing of any value I can determine is printed on the boards). Thanks /\A\n\d\y/ Andrew Evrovski Development Director Cyberplex Atlantic, Halifax, NS (TSE:CX) ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFBEA.29E97CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Star Castle Monitor

Hi Folks,

        Anyone = know the barnd and model on the B&W Vector Monitor used in star = castle?  I have 2 cocktail Stars Castles and they both have the = same monitor, but I do not know how to tell what monitor it is.  = (Nothing of any value I can determine is printed on the = boards).

Thanks
/\A\n\d\y/

Andrew Evrovski
Development Director
Cyberplex Atlantic, Halifax, NS
(TSE:CX)

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From owner-vectorlist Tue Aug 1 17:14:10 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA26542 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:14:09 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24858 for vectorlist-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:10:37 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: From: "Keith, Brendan" To: "'vectorlist > Subject: RE: VECTOR: Star Castle Monitor Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:00:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO It's a special Vectorbeam/Cinematronics monitor. There's nothing like it used in any other brand of game. But the tube itself can be replace with a tube from a G05 (Asteroids, etc.) Brendan Keith brendan.keith -----Original Message----- From: Evrovski, Andrew [mailto:andy ] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 2:56 PM To: vectorlist Subject: VECTOR: Star Castle Monitor Hi Folks, Anyone know the barnd and model on the B&W Vector Monitor used in star castle? I have 2 cocktail Stars Castles and they both have the same monitor, but I do not know how to tell what monitor it is. (Nothing of any value I can determine is printed on the boards). Thanks /\A\n\d\y/ Andrew Evrovski Development Director Cyberplex Atlantic, Halifax, NS (TSE:CX) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Tue Aug 1 18:05:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA01285 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:05:55 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25120 for vectorlist-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:07:17 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000801145606.00cca1d0 > X-Sender: a1a96636@pop.telus.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 14:59:13 -0700 To: vectorlist From: John Robertson Subject: Re: VECTOR: Star Castle Monitor In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Hi /\A\n\d\y/! You might have a clone Star Castles...check this picture to be sure http://flippers.com/images/StarCastle-exterior.jpg This one is made by HOIE, and I have schematics (on Spies as well) and maybe some parts... John :-#)# At 11:56 AM 8/1/00, Evrovski, Andrew wrote: >Hi Folks, > > Anyone know the barnd and model on the B&W Vector Monitor used in > star castle? I have 2 cocktail Stars Castles and they both have the same > monitor, but I do not know how to tell what monitor it is. (Nothing of > any value I can determine is printed on the boards). > >Thanks >/\A\n\d\y/ > >Andrew Evrovski >Development Director >Cyberplex Atlantic, Halifax, NS >(TSE:CX) John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Wed Aug 2 21:52:47 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA22881 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:52:45 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA31081 for vectorlist-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:50:53 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: solarfox To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: Cinematronic HV question Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:43:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000720154733.02593480 > In-Reply-To: <39777D0D.8B0AE81B > X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by synthcom.com id SAA31078 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:28:29 -0500, you wrote: >I've read Zonn's and David Fish's excellent Cinematronics monitor and HV >troubleshooting guides. However, I have an 'early' Cinematronics monitor >with the discrete HV section that resides on the monitor board itself. >The HV has (surprise, surprise) stopped working properly, and while the >later gold box HV modules are hard to find, the earlier ones are next to >impossible to get. Ahhh, someone _else_ with a dead "first-generation" Cinematronics monitor... I feel your pain. :) >My tiny mind thinks all it will take is the removal of the now present >HV components from the board, and a new set of wires and a molex >connector to plug into the Keltron HV box. Is that it, and has anyone >done this yet? I'd been thinking about this as well, actually, and your post prompted me to track down some schematic sets for the different monitors, to see if it's a feasable swap... Apparantly, there are _three_ different Cinematronics monitor designs: (1) the "SPACE WARS"-style design, which uses the onboard HV section (2) an "enhanced" version of the above (used in "STARHAWK", and possibly one or two others?) which has some additional circuitry in the power-supply section. (I'm not quite sure what its purpose is yet, but its a significant modification from (1). ) This design also has a 7805 regulator added, to generate +5V for the logic chips from the +25V input, instead of relying on the +5V from the CPU board. (3) the "Keltron" design, which also has a somewhat different power-supply section that's similar, but not identical, to (2). The DAC and deflection-driver circuits look the same across all three designs, except that the "Keltron-style" schematic shows an empty space where R122 and R222 used to be... These resistors were paralleled across a .1uF capacitor and a 360 ohm, 1W resistor in series, and the whole trio was paralleled across the deflection coil, like so: (warning: ASCII art ahead!) --------------------------o--------------------- ! ! (replace the _'s with ! ! "1" for the vertical ---o--- ! deflection circuit ! ! ! and "2" for the ! ! C_02 ! horizontal) ! --- 0.1uF ! ! --- 100V ---- R_22 \ ! _) 1.2K / ! _) 1/2W \ \ R_23 _) (?) / / 360 ohm ) ! \ 1W ---- ! / !DEFLECTION ! ! ! COIL ! ! ! ---o--- ! ! ! ! ! --------------------------o--------------------- I can't imagine this has anything to do with the Keltron supply... does anyone know what removing the 1.2K resistor from this circuit _does_ do? In any case - at _first_ glance, it doesn't look like the Keltron will work as a drop-in replacement for the old-style HV section... but, now that I have all three schematic sets in one place, I'm going to go through them with a highlighter pen and see _exactly_ what the differences are; it might actually be do-able with only a bit of tweaking. I'll keep y'all posted. :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- When they took the fourth amendment, I said nothing because I didn't deal drugs. When they took the sixth amendment, I said nothing because I hadn't committed a crime. When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I didn't own a gun. Now they've taken the first amendment, and I can't say anything about it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- solarfox (Gary Akins jr.) http://lonestar.texas.net/~solarfox ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Wed Aug 2 22:19:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA26184 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:19:14 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31200 for vectorlist-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:18:13 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <3988D43E.4EAF71AD > Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:09:02 -0500 From: tom mcclintock Organization: MG Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: Cinematronic HV question References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000720154733.02593480 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO David was kind enough to review my oh so 'artistic' drawings of schematic markups, and it should be a very easy 'hack' to do. I'll post my findings once complete. Now if I can only get to it. I still need to go through those 720 boards, right Jon! tm solarfox wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:28:29 -0500, you wrote: > > >I've read Zonn's and David Fish's excellent Cinematronics monitor and HV > >troubleshooting guides. However, I have an 'early' Cinematronics monitor > >with the discrete HV section that resides on the monitor board itself. > >The HV has (surprise, surprise) stopped working properly, and while the > >later gold box HV modules are hard to find, the earlier ones are next to > >impossible to get. > > Ahhh, someone _else_ with a dead "first-generation" Cinematronics > monitor... I feel your pain. :) > > >My tiny mind thinks all it will take is the removal of the now present > >HV components from the board, and a new set of wires and a molex > >connector to plug into the Keltron HV box. Is that it, and has anyone > >done this yet? > > I'd been thinking about this as well, actually, and your post prompted > me to track down some schematic sets for the different monitors, to see if > it's a feasable swap... Apparantly, there are _three_ different > Cinematronics monitor designs: > > (1) the "SPACE WARS"-style design, which uses the onboard HV section > > (2) an "enhanced" version of the above (used in "STARHAWK", and > possibly one or two others?) which has some additional circuitry in the > power-supply section. (I'm not quite sure what its purpose is yet, but its > a significant modification from (1). ) This design also has a 7805 > regulator added, to generate +5V for the logic chips from the +25V input, > instead of relying on the +5V from the CPU board. > > (3) the "Keltron" design, which also has a somewhat different > power-supply section that's similar, but not identical, to (2). > > The DAC and deflection-driver circuits look the same across all three > designs, except that the "Keltron-style" schematic shows an empty space > where R122 and R222 used to be... These resistors were paralleled across a > .1uF capacitor and a 360 ohm, 1W resistor in series, and the whole trio was > paralleled across the deflection coil, like so: > > (warning: ASCII art ahead!) > > --------------------------o--------------------- > ! ! > (replace the _'s with ! ! > "1" for the vertical ---o--- ! > deflection circuit ! ! ! > and "2" for the ! ! C_02 ! > horizontal) ! --- 0.1uF ! > ! --- 100V ---- > R_22 \ ! _) > 1.2K / ! _) > 1/2W \ \ R_23 _) > (?) / / 360 ohm ) > ! \ 1W ---- > ! / !DEFLECTION > ! ! ! COIL > ! ! ! > ---o--- ! > ! ! > ! ! > --------------------------o--------------------- > > I can't imagine this has anything to do with the Keltron supply... > does anyone know what removing the 1.2K resistor from this circuit _does_ > do? > > In any case - at _first_ glance, it doesn't look like the Keltron will > work as a drop-in replacement for the old-style HV section... but, now > that I have all three schematic sets in one place, I'm going to go through > them with a highlighter pen and see _exactly_ what the differences are; it > might actually be do-able with only a bit of tweaking. I'll keep y'all > posted. :) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > When they took the fourth amendment, I said nothing because I didn't deal drugs. > When they took the sixth amendment, I said nothing because I hadn't committed a crime. > When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I didn't own a gun. > Now they've taken the first amendment, and I can't say anything about it. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > solarfox (Gary Akins jr.) > http://lonestar.texas.net/~solarfox > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other > ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Wed Aug 2 22:38:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA28344 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:37:59 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31270 for vectorlist-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:39:36 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: solarfox To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: Cinematronic HV question Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:32:06 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000720154733.02593480 > In-Reply-To: <3988D43E.4EAF71AD > X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by synthcom.com id TAA31267 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:09:02 -0500, you wrote: >David was kind enough to review my oh so 'artistic' drawings of >schematic markups, and it should be a very easy 'hack' to do. I'll post >my findings once complete. Now if I can only get to it. Well, that'll work too... :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- When they took the fourth amendment, I said nothing because I didn't deal drugs. When they took the sixth amendment, I said nothing because I hadn't committed a crime. When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I didn't own a gun. Now they've taken the first amendment, and I can't say anything about it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- solarfox (Gary Akins jr.) http://lonestar.texas.net/~solarfox ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Thu Aug 3 00:26:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA08489 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:26:00 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA31563 for vectorlist-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:28:21 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: Zonn To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: Cinematronic HV question Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:23:38 -0700 Message-ID: <0qgkos82tbmlop567f0itp3gisl2rap7re > References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000720154733.02593480 > In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by synthcom.com id VAA31560 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:43:22 -0500, solarfox wrote: > The DAC and deflection-driver circuits look the same across all three >designs, except that the "Keltron-style" schematic shows an empty space >where R122 and R222 used to be... These resistors were paralleled across a >.1uF capacitor and a 360 ohm, 1W resistor in series, and the whole trio was >paralleled across the deflection coil, like so: > >(warning: ASCII art ahead!) > >--------------------------o--------------------- > ! ! >(replace the _'s with ! ! > "1" for the vertical ---o--- ! > deflection circuit ! ! ! > and "2" for the ! ! C_02 ! > horizontal) ! --- 0.1uF ! > ! --- 100V ---- > R_22 \ ! _) > 1.2K / ! _) > 1/2W \ \ R_23 _) > (?) / / 360 ohm ) > ! \ 1W ---- > ! / !DEFLECTION > ! ! ! COIL > ! ! ! > ---o--- ! > ! ! > ! ! >--------------------------o--------------------- > > I can't imagine this has anything to do with the Keltron supply... >does anyone know what removing the 1.2K resistor from this circuit _does_ >do? > Those were apparently there to compensate for non-linearity in the yoke. I switched yokes between monitors at one time and for the life of me could not get the little lines to match up on the edges of the monitor. Removing the 1.2k resistor fixed things right up. apparently the board change coincided with a yoke change. If you've changed yokes and cannot get the line edges to match up, this would be the place to look. > In any case - at _first_ glance, it doesn't look like the Keltron will >work as a drop-in replacement for the old-style HV section... but, now >that I have all three schematic sets in one place, I'm going to go through >them with a highlighter pen and see _exactly_ what the differences are; it >might actually be do-able with only a bit of tweaking. I'll keep y'all >posted. :) I also have an old Space War monitor with a dead HV power supply. I also figured it would not be that hard to use a newer HV supply -- though I have yet to do it. If I remember correctly they added a spot on the board to plug in the HV supply, but still left all the traces for the older supplies. I don't think it will take much more effort than figuring out where the wires go, and possibly removing some key components from the old HV supply (like the 18v regulators?) The newer supplies are nicer anyways since they regulate much better which leads to less blooming effects. -Zonn --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Thu Aug 3 08:56:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19422 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:56:54 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA33087 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 05:51:51 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: solarfox To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: Cinematronic HV question Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:44:22 -0500 Message-ID: <7qoioskf707vj8hrfbsv7q3qeai9csetjr > References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000720154733.02593480 > In-Reply-To: <0qgkos82tbmlop567f0itp3gisl2rap7re > X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by synthcom.com id FAA33084 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:23:38 -0700, you wrote: >> I can't imagine this has anything to do with the Keltron supply... >>does anyone know what removing the 1.2K resistor from this circuit _does_ >>do? >> >Those were apparently there to compensate for non-linearity in the yoke. > >I switched yokes between monitors at one time and for the life of me could not >get the little lines to match up on the edges of the monitor. Removing the 1.2k >resistor fixed things right up. Ahhh, that would explain why the Keltron-type schematic shows a set of empty test points where the 1.2K resistor used to be... some yokes required it and some didn't. (Apparantly, they did change CRT vendors at one point, because the Keltron-type schematic does talk about needing an extra resistor in the power-supply section for an "Amperex CRT".) >I also have an old Space War monitor with a dead HV power supply. I also >figured it would not be that hard to use a newer HV supply -- though I have yet >to do it. If I remember correctly they added a spot on the board to plug in the >HV supply, but still left all the traces for the older supplies. I don't think >it will take much more effort than figuring out where the wires go, and possibly >removing some key components from the old HV supply (like the 18v regulators?) Actually, the +/-18V regulators are not used at all in the Keltron-type design; the Keltron HV supply takes +25V and +90V. Really, the only thing that keeps me from thinking that it's an easy sway is that there _is_ a significant amount of circuitry added to the power-supply sections between the Rev.A and Rev.B versions of the monitors with the old-style HV section. The Rev.B additions were carried through to the Keltron-type design (a.k.a. "Rev.G", according to the draftsman's block in the corner), so if you have a Rev.A monitor it _might_ be a little more complicated than just figuring out where the wires go. :/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- When they took the fourth amendment, I said nothing because I didn't deal drugs. When they took the sixth amendment, I said nothing because I hadn't committed a crime. When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I didn't own a gun. Now they've taken the first amendment, and I can't say anything about it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- solarfox (Gary Akins jr.) http://lonestar.texas.net/~solarfox ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 00:30:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA07997 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 00:30:22 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA48671 for vectorlist-outgoing; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 21:32:44 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: MKDUD Message-ID: <5f.8ce15e4.26bf9374 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 00:22:12 EDT Subject: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! To: vectorlist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 106 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400606583 Anybody know the guy selling this?? Duncan, are you listening??? I know this sounds redundant, but I can't beleive the nerve of the e-gay idiots. Let's kick his %&*@#!!!!!!! MK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 00:43:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA08868 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 00:43:16 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA48746 for vectorlist-outgoing; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 21:48:46 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <398E3D76.4B3D2870@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 00:39:18 -0400 From: someotherguy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-MOEATL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! References: <5f.8ce15e4.26bf9374 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------886A0320AB25F1B64A5890F1" Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO --------------886A0320AB25F1B64A5890F1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For what it's worth, electronicamusements (electronicamuse ) = Dave Grohowski, a.k.a. Dvegro, Coinop2000. Draw your own conclusions from that; I've only had one dealing with him and it's on an auction he won of mine that he failed to pay for. No merchandise shipped, so it was only a minor nuisance. MKDUD wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400606583 > > Anybody know the guy selling this?? Duncan, are you listening??? > > I know this sounds redundant, but I can't beleive the nerve of the e-gay > idiots. Let's kick his %&*@#!!!!!!! > > MK > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other > ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . --------------886A0320AB25F1B64A5890F1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For what it's worth, electronicamusements (electronicamuse ) = Dave Grohowski, a.k.a. Dvegro, Coinop2000.  Draw your own conclusions from that; I've only had one dealing with him and it's on an auction he won of mine that he failed to pay for.  No merchandise shipped, so it was only a minor nuisance.

MKDUD wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400606583

Anybody know the guy selling this?? Duncan, are you listening???

I know this sounds redundant, but I can't beleive the nerve of the e-gay
idiots. Let's kick his %&*@#!!!!!!!

MK
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uhmm, can someone explain what the problem is with = this auction?  and why MKDUD is pissed?

A>

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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item= =3D400606583

Anybody know the guy selling this?? Duncan, are you = listening???

I know this sounds redundant, but I can't beleive the = nerve of the e-gay
idiots. Let's kick his %&*@#!!!!!!!

MK
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C00029.3A2D8136-- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 00:49:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA09295 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 00:49:13 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA48778 for vectorlist-outgoing; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 21:54:04 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 21:54:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Neil Bradley To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! In-Reply-To: <398E3D76.4B3D2870@mediaone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO > For what it's worth, electronicamusements (electronicamuse ) = > Dave Grohowski, a.k.a. Dvegro, Coinop2000. Draw your own conclusions > from that; I've only had one dealing with him and it's on an auction > he won of mine that he failed to pay for. No merchandise shipped, so > it was only a minor nuisance. He has a whole slew of auctions going for EPROM "upgrades", including the Pacman speedup and a few others. -->Neil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Bradley "If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic." - Me Synthcom Systems, Inc. ICQ # 29402898 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 01:08:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA10910 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 01:08:42 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA48832 for vectorlist-outgoing; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 22:11:50 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: MKDUD Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 01:01:16 EDT Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! To: vectorlist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 106 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO In a message dated 8/7/00 12:44:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, andy writes: << uhmm, can someone explain what the problem is with this auction? and why MKDUD is pissed? >> Well, mabey not pissed, but LIVID!! Duncan wrote the "Tube" roms, kind of like a present to dedicated Tempest phreaks. It makes me want to vomit seeing somebody trying to profit from Duncan's rom..... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 01:33:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA12889 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 01:33:39 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA48932 for vectorlist-outgoing; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 22:34:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: From: "Evrovski, Andrew" To: "'vectorlist > Subject: RE: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 01:18:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0002E.EB87AA6A" Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0002E.EB87AA6A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Now I understand. Thanks for the clarification. A> -----Original Message----- From: MKDUD ] Sent: August 7, 2000 02:01 To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! In a message dated 8/7/00 12:44:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, andy writes: << uhmm, can someone explain what the problem is with this auction? and why MKDUD is pissed? >> Well, mabey not pissed, but LIVID!! Duncan wrote the "Tube" roms, kind of like a present to dedicated Tempest phreaks. It makes me want to vomit seeing somebody trying to profit from Duncan's rom..... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0002E.EB87AA6A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!!

Now I understand.  Thanks for the clarification.

A>

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In a message dated 8/7/00 12:44:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
andy writes:

<< uhmm, can someone explain what the problem is with this auction?  and why
 MKDUD is pissed? >>

Well, mabey not pissed, but LIVID!! Duncan wrote the "Tube" roms, kind of
like a present to dedicated Tempest phreaks. It makes me want to vomit seeing
somebody trying to profit from Duncan's rom.....
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0002E.EB87AA6A-- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 02:15:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA15980 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 02:15:56 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA49059 for vectorlist-outgoing; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 23:16:45 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) X-Originating-IP: [24.6.217.124] From: "Clay Cowgill" To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 23:06:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2000 06:06:18.0485 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A172A50:01C00035] Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO >Anybody know the guy selling this?? Duncan, are you listening??? I think Duncan already hashed this out on the newsgroup a couple weeks ago? He was mostly annoyed that people would pay for it because they didn't know it was free, but he didn't have a problem with people paying for it because they didn't have blank EPROMs or the equipment to do it themselves. (Basically the "doing it as a service" argument.) -Clay ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 09:58:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from orion.smart.net (orion.smart.net [207.176.80.105]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22096 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:58:00 -0400 Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by orion.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13938 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:42:43 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA50156 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 06:46:06 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807085813.02fb7ab0 > X-Sender: clayberg X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 09:03:16 -0400 To: vectorlist From: Eric Clayberg Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO >>Anybody know the guy selling this?? Duncan, are you listening??? > >I think Duncan already hashed this out on the newsgroup a couple weeks ago? He did, but he would still be pissed with this specific auction. On the newsgroup, he stated that the "deal" he worked out with the folks selling these "upgrades" was that they had to mention that the ROM images themselves were free and where they could be found. It had to be clear that the seller was just performing the service of burning the ROMs (for someone who couldn't do it themselves). The seller in this particular auction added language to that effect in his earlier auction, but has left it out in this one. And, in case anyone is wondering, Duncan stated that he was perfectly happy with Clay's Multi-Tempest kit. -Eric VAPS: http://www.vaps.org/members/ma/clayberg .html Arcade: http://www.smalltalksystems.com/clayberg/arcade/arcade.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 12:54:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19381 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:54:48 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA50719 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:51:36 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: MKDUD Message-ID: <16.9e5aaf.26c0409c > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:41:00 EDT Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! To: vectorlist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 106 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO In a message dated 8/7/00 9:38:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, clayberg writes: << And, in case anyone is wondering, Duncan stated that he was perfectly happy with Clay's Multi-Tempest kit. >> I knew Duncan gave Clay permission to put "tubes" in the multikit, but I don't think he gave this guy permission to auction the rom on e-gay.... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 13:09:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: from orion.smart.net (orion.smart.net [207.176.80.105]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21864 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:09:28 -0400 Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by orion.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18259 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:09:27 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA50776 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 10:10:46 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807095729.00b3c460@207.20.108.98> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 09:59:56 -0700 To: vectorlist From: Anders Knudsen Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! In-Reply-To: <16.9e5aaf.26c0409c > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO At 12:41 PM 8/7/00 -0400, thus spewed MKDUD forth: >I knew Duncan gave Clay permission to put "tubes" in the multikit, but I >don't think he gave this guy permission to auction the rom on e-gay.... Uhm...what exactly is e-gay ? I've heard of and used e-bay, but e-gay? :-P -anders. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 13:39:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26382 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:39:20 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA50882 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 10:41:47 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807132209.02e837e0 > X-Sender: clayberg X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:30:12 -0400 To: vectorlist From: Eric Clayberg Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! In-Reply-To: <16.9e5aaf.26c0409c > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO >I don't think he gave this guy permission to auction the rom on e-gay.... According to what Duncan said on RGVAC, it was OK by him if folks sold the ROMs as long as they made it clear that the ROM images were available for free (and where to get them) and made it clear that the auction price was solely to perform the programming service (presumably for those who couldn't do it themselves). BTW, I have seen various folks selling Tempest Tubes ROMs (and switchable normal/tubes ROMs) for over a year now on eBay. -Eric VAPS: http://www.vaps.org/members/ma/clayberg .html Arcade: http://www.smalltalksystems.com/clayberg/arcade/arcade.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 13:42:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: from orion.smart.net (orion.smart.net [207.176.80.105]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26879 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:42:43 -0400 Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by orion.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18756 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:26:38 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA50820 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 10:26:24 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <398EEEFD.570FE645@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:16:45 -0400 From: someotherguy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-MOEATL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807095729.00b3c460@207.20.108.98> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Another fond nickname for evilBay, eh? I can't complain. We all hate to see things sell for more than what we want to pay, but then again, I like being able to sell things there as well. Sometimes you need to maximize your profit on some items to fund other purchases. Now that I'm getting into pins, eBay (for selling) looks better, and better............ >From a truly sick man, Richard Anders Knudsen wrote: > At 12:41 PM 8/7/00 -0400, thus spewed MKDUD forth: > >I knew Duncan gave Clay permission to put "tubes" in the multikit, but I > >don't think he gave this guy permission to auction the rom on e-gay.... > > Uhm...what exactly is e-gay ? I've heard of and used e-bay, but e-gay? :-P > > -anders. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other > ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 16:55:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA24875 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:55:28 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA51639 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:56:01 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <6A8039E06136D31180140060B01B3B8402C521F7 > From: Mehrtens John-LJM071 To: "'vectorlist > Subject: VECTOR: Ebay harumph Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:45:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO It seems eBay has risen the awareness - and value - of our equipment. It definitely is a seller's market on there! I've lately strayed away from buying anything over that service, for the simple fact that I've had some _VERY_ bad experiences with items I've bought not arriving in even a semi-timely fashion. A bad onion can spoil the soup! Oh, and I purchased some items from Coinop2000 this year and had no problems. *whew* I wouldn't hesitate to sell anything on there, chiefly because I'd only ship after greenbacks are in hand. Anyhow -- to keep you sorta updated on my status lately, I haven't been around my home much at all for the past few weeks. I DO have a bunch of small EPROMs, I just haven't rummaged through my basement to find any of them...you know how basements can be sometimes! As a matter of fact, I still haven't had time to work on my Space Duel -- ya know, the one that went belly-up almost a year ago... And the Tempest cabinet hasn't had its bottom redone yet (water damage to particleboard really is nasty!), but all of these are coming. Hate to say it, but it may be too far gone to be worth rebuilding. Can I smell some winter projects coming? hehehe Cheers, John -----Original Message----- From: someotherguy [mailto:someotherguy@mediaone.net] Another fond nickname for evilBay, eh? I can't complain. We all hate to see things sell for more than what we want to pay, but then again, I like being able to sell things there as well. Sometimes you need to maximize your profit on some items to fund other purchases. Now that I'm getting into pins, eBay (for selling) looks better, and better............ >From a truly sick man, Richard --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 19:26:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA13336 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:26:47 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA52161 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:26:49 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: Dangerwil Message-ID: <76.1e3db67.26c09d38 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:16:08 EDT Subject: VECTOR: For everybody who hates ebay... To: vectorlist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Hey, I have had MANY happy people using ebay and it paid for my move to beautiful St. Thomas in the Caribbean :: ) Got the last one up now, a Zektor/ sega multigame. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=402979299 Bill Sunburned, hungover from too much CHEAP rum and diving :: ) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 20:01:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA16306 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:51:11 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA52338 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:53:21 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: Josh McCormick Message-Id: <200008072343.SAA18977 > Subject: Re: VECTOR: For everybody who hates ebay... To: vectorlist Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:43:13 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <76.1e3db67.26c09d38 " at Aug 07, 2000 07:16:08 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Why didn't you include a screen shot of the game working? I'd never bid on an arcade game that doesn't have a working image... especially a vector one. > > Hey, > > I have had MANY happy people using ebay and it paid for my move to > beautiful St. Thomas in the Caribbean :: ) Got the last one up now, a > Zektor/ sega multigame. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=402979299 > > Bill > Sunburned, hungover from too much CHEAP rum and diving :: ) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other > ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Mon Aug 7 21:15:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA26624 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:15:26 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA52697 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:18:04 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: Dangerwil Message-ID: <9d.91531bb.26c0b746 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:07:18 EDT Subject: Re: VECTOR: For everybody who hates ebay... To: vectorlist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO In a message dated 00-08-07 19:44:11 EDT, you write: << hy didn't you include a screen shot of the game working? I'd never bid on an arcade game that doesn't have a working image... especially a vector one. >> I had to take the pictures before I fixed it. It crapped out when I tried to take the pictures : ( In the rush to get moved, I didn't get a chance to fix it until the last day I was in town. Just the usual Sega problem, a bad 2114 ram on the xy timing board, no big thing. Certainly if someone wants it, I can get a few shots of the working screens. Check my feedback, I do the best I can to get everybody a good deal. I didn't even want to sell this one. It was pretty much my Holy Grail... But electronics and salt air just don't mix...... I'm gonna be down here for awhile :: ) Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Tue Aug 8 00:05:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA14351 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:05:56 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA53170 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:07:56 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.1.20000807234635.00a7f590 > X-Sender: clytor X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 23:48:20 -0400 To: vectorlist From: clark Subject: VECTOR: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Is Videotopia off tour for good? It sure was sick. A wall of Atari color vector, a wall of Sega color vector. Itchy hands anyone? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Tue Aug 8 00:59:10 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA18937 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:59:09 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA53294 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 22:01:08 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <009c01c000f4$b421ad20$3d00a8c0@TEMPEST> From: "Tempest" To: References: <16.9e5aaf.26c0409c > Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 23:54:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Playing Devil's advocate here... One could argue that he's only charging a "service frr" for EPROM copying services... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 11:41 AM Subject: Re: VECTOR: Check this E-GAY CRAP out!!! > In a message dated 8/7/00 9:38:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > clayberg writes: > > << And, in case anyone is wondering, Duncan stated that he was perfectly > happy > with Clay's Multi-Tempest kit. >> > > I knew Duncan gave Clay permission to put "tubes" in the multikit, but I > don't think he gave this guy permission to auction the rom on e-gay.... > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other > ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Tue Aug 8 01:14:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA20415 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 01:14:22 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA53331 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 22:11:22 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807220101.00cdfe60 > X-Sender: a1a96636@pop.telus.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 22:02:05 -0700 To: vectorlist From: John Robertson Subject: Re: VECTOR: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.20000807234635.00a7f590 > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO I hope you meant slick instead of sick...or was it an upsetting experience? ;-) John :-#)# At 08:48 PM 8/7/00, clark wrote: >Is Videotopia off tour for good? It sure was sick. A wall of Atari color >vector, a wall of Sega color vector. Itchy hands anyone? > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >** questions, comments, or problems to neil . John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Tue Aug 8 01:36:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA22071 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 01:36:16 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA53391 for vectorlist-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 22:32:27 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.1.20000808011220.00db3710 > X-Sender: clytor X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 01:12:50 -0400 To: vectorlist From: clark Subject: Re: VECTOR: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807220101.00cdfe60 > References: <4.3.1.20000807234635.00a7f590 > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO I felt quite good. At 10:02 PM 8/7/00 -0700, you wrote: >I hope you meant slick instead of sick...or was it an upsetting >experience? ;-) > >John :-#)# > >At 08:48 PM 8/7/00, clark wrote: >>Is Videotopia off tour for good? It sure was sick. A wall of Atari >>color vector, a wall of Sega color vector. Itchy hands anyone? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Tue Aug 8 04:42:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA02425 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 04:42:29 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA53798 for vectorlist-outgoing; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 01:46:08 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <398FC67C.764DC5BB@cedar-rapids.net> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 03:36:12 -0500 From: Rodger Boots Organization: No noticeable organization. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "vectorlist > Subject: VECTOR: Blacklight bulb sale? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO MCM Electronics is running a closeout on blacklight bulbs. 18-BLB Black light bulb Order # 555-1340 Closeout $7.80 I take it this means 18", which would be the 15 watt bulbs used in video games. If you would like to phone in your order call 1-800-543-4330 and use Source Code EM079 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Wed Aug 9 01:32:48 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA07451 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:32:47 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA57360 for vectorlist-outgoing; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:32:24 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: MKDUD Message-ID: <64.56fbdf1.26c2445a > Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:21:30 EDT Subject: Re: VECTOR: For everybody who hates ebay... To: vectorlist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 106 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Hello, OK, I'll admit it, I really don't like e-bay ( I'll be pollitically corrupt, uhh, I mean correct for once, and once ONLY). I'm sorry if my renaming the internet idiot auction site offended anybody. True, I do bid on (and occasionally buy) items listed there, but I liked things better when the average idiots were oblivious to our hobby. When I wrote the Amplifone HV faq, I was told by some long time vector phreaks that: "It isn't allways benificial to educate ignorant masses on something that will become increasingly rare. Watch what your little "guide" does to the average price of Amplifone HV boards, working or not..." (I hate to paraphrase one person; but I didn't mention the author's name, though I'm sure he'll be reading this...) Well, he was right. The price of Amplifone HV boards has really gone up. So has the price of about everything else we're interested in. E-bay, IMHO, has brought more new people into older arcade stuff than anything else. My problem is that virtually NONE of these people are interested in contributing or LEARNING anything, most just want to know these things, (not necessarilly in order): 1. Where can I find________ 2. Where (or how) did you get_______ 3. What is ________ worth 4. Can YOU fix _________ 5. Will you sell _________ 6. Why won't you sell ______ Maybe I'm getting old (at the age of 33), but am I the only one who feels this way? I'm sorry if this seemed a bit off topic, and if I offended anyone on the list with my previous renaming of the internet idiot auction site. However, I've allways looked at Vectolist as a forum to help fellow Vector phreaks out, to share ideas, and to LEARN. It seems to me that this happened alot more (on both RGVAC and Vectolist) before e-bay was around... getting off my soapbox (again), MK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Wed Aug 9 10:44:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25754 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:44:01 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA58911 for vectorlist-outgoing; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:42:51 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher X. Candreva" To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: For everybody who hates ebay... In-Reply-To: <64.56fbdf1.26c2445a > Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 MKDUD wrote: > My problem is that virtually NONE of these people are interested in > contributing or LEARNING anything, most just want to know these things, (not > necessarilly in order): That's somewhat of a self-correcting problem. Owning one of these machines, especially vectors, is like having an antique car. Either you have to know how to fix it, or have a LOT of money to pay someone to do it. Sooner or later, probably sooner, something will break. Either they'll have to sell it as broken for less than they paid, learn how to fix it, or pay one of us to do it for them. Unless it's a Sega G-80 board. Can anyone other than Clay fix those ? :-) (Not so much the boards themselves, as having a rig to fix them in because of that *!@#&!@#$! card cage.) -Chris ========================================================== Chris Candreva -- chris -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester http://www.westnet.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Wed Aug 9 10:57:10 2000 Return-Path: Received: from orion.smart.net (orion.smart.net [207.176.80.105]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27699 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:57:09 -0400 Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by orion.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30048 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:31:24 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA58852 for vectorlist-outgoing; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:29:14 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.0.20000809100836.00ae7410@pop.atl.mediaone.net> X-Sender: someotherguy@pop.atl.mediaone.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:18:32 -0400 To: vectorlist From: someotherguy Subject: Re: VECTOR: For everybody who hates ebay... In-Reply-To: <64.56fbdf1.26c2445a > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Hey MK, I can't imagine that there was any offense taken by members of this list. I have to admit that I have a love/hate relationship with eBay. I hate when someone bids an item I want (or need) well beyond what it *used* to be worth, just because they have deep pockets and a small brain, thus establishing the new "market price" for that item. However, every now and then I find an item that I was unable to attain locally or through an want ad on r.g.v.a.c. and that's a nice treat. Furthermore, I love being able to sell things there. This can be an expensive hobby (part of the cause explained above, and in your post, of course) and we need to find ways to offset the expense. Say I pay x amount of dollars for a stack of Williams boards, untested and with pieces scattered, from an operator. He knows they're worth a decent amount, and charges accordingly. I spend hours troubleshooting and repairing them so I can finish a couple of personal projects. With the leftovers, if I put a for sale ad on r.g.v.a.c., I'll get offers of $50 for a complete working Defender set that would have cost me $150 if I bought it from one of the "dealers" on the group. So, I stick it on eBay - and it gets an amount that makes it worth my time. It's tough to find a side of the fence to sit on. It's been suggested before that the increasing popularity of classic arcade games is more of a benefit to the hobby, than anything else - consider the feasibility of manufacturing all the reproduction items that we otherwise wouldn't be able to get. At some point, NOS and like-new items do run out, and if there wasn't a market for repro - we'd just have to settle with rotten looking/functioning machines because we're not even enough people to call a "niche" market. Waxing philosophical, or my truck if I have spare time, Richard At 01:21 AM 8/9/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > > OK, I'll admit it, I really don't like e-bay ( I'll be pollitically >corrupt, uhh, I mean correct for once, and once ONLY). I'm sorry if my >renaming the internet idiot auction site offended anybody. True, I do bid on >(and occasionally buy) items listed there, but I liked things better when the >average idiots were oblivious to our hobby. > When I wrote the Amplifone HV faq, I was told by some long time vector >phreaks that: > "It isn't allways benificial to educate ignorant masses on something >that will become increasingly rare. Watch what your little "guide" does to >the average price of Amplifone HV boards, working or not..." (I hate to >paraphrase one person; but I didn't mention the author's name, though I'm >sure he'll be reading this...) > Well, he was right. The price of Amplifone HV boards has really gone >up. So has the price of about everything else we're interested in. E-bay, >IMHO, has brought more new people into older arcade stuff than anything else. > My problem is that virtually NONE of these people are interested in >contributing or LEARNING anything, most just want to know these things, (not >necessarilly in order): > >1. Where can I find________ >2. Where (or how) did you get_______ >3. What is ________ worth >4. Can YOU fix _________ >5. Will you sell _________ >6. Why won't you sell ______ > > Maybe I'm getting old (at the age of 33), but am I the only one who >feels this way? I'm sorry if this seemed a bit off topic, and if I offended >anyone on the list with my previous renaming of the internet idiot auction >site. However, I've allways looked at Vectolist as a forum to help fellow >Vector phreaks out, to share ideas, and to LEARN. It seems to me that this >happened alot more (on both RGVAC and Vectolist) before e-bay was around... > >getting off my soapbox (again), > >MK >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >** questions, comments, or problems to neil . --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Wed Aug 9 13:04:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14578 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:03:59 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA59396 for vectorlist-outgoing; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:55:05 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <39918A47.BFE067A0@dds.nl> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:43:51 +0200 From: Tek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: For everybody who hates ebay... References: <64.56fbdf1.26c2445a > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO > Maybe I'm getting old (at the age of 33), but am I the only one who > feels this way? I'm sorry if this seemed a bit off topic, and if I offended > anyone on the list with my previous renaming of the internet idiot auction > site. However, I've allways looked at Vectolist as a forum to help fellow > Vector phreaks out, to share ideas, and to LEARN. It seems to me that this > happened alot more (on both RGVAC and Vectolist) before e-bay was around... Well, people always get that strange look at their face when I tell them 'No, I don't mind it is broken, I even like it better this way'. Why? Because I LIKE to fix this old ewuipment, because while restoring or repairing the game, it becomes YOUR game, not just 'a' game which anyone can buy with the right amount of money. I got the same thing with old (tube) Tektronix o'scopes as well. It is all the kind of equiment you can actally REPAIR and UNDERSTANd, that's why I probably like these so much. Also the thrill of getting it real cheap because it is broken rocks... (But that's maybe because I'm Dutch... :) ) Cya ! 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From owner-vectorlist Thu Aug 10 01:56:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA24233 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:56:19 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA61616 for vectorlist-outgoing; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 22:54:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000809225016.00855df0@earthlink.net> X-Sender: winslow@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 22:50:16 -0700 To: vectorlist From: Steven Winslow Subject: VECTOR: FT: Amplifone Tube - NON WORKING Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Gents, I've got an Amplifone tube in the garage that was sold to me in a bulk deal by a friend as "untested." They obtained it from an old operator. It is now tested to be NOT WORKING. I tested it in a good working Star Wars. It has the typical burns in the center of the tube. I almost trashed it but then remembered some discussions a while back about parts on it that some of you may want. The yoke, shunts and nipple on the end of the neck seem to be in good shape and may be of some value. I could use a tested - good Amplifone deflection board for my on-going vector projects. I could also use a tested - good Asteroids Deluxe board. Understandably these boards are worth more than a NFG tube so payment would also be a part of the deal. If there is any interest please LMK directly at winslow@earthlink.net If no interest then I guess I'll put it up on EGAY because I need to clear the space in the garage for more cabinets !!! :-) Thanks for your consideration. Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Thu Aug 10 14:47:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19908 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:47:02 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA63870 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:45:23 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000810113333.00a93a30 > X-Sender: a1a96636@pop.telus.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:35:37 -0700 To: vectorlist From: John Robertson Subject: Re: VECTOR: FT: Amplifone Tube - NON WORKING In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000809225016.00855df0@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO How is the tube "not working"? You might be wise to see if anyone you know has a tube rejuvenator. I've brought a few tubes back from the dead with ours. They show up on eBay every now and then sell around $50 or so... Some faults in tubes are not fatal, sometimes the tube can be saved if shorted by running a separate filament transformer. John :-#)# At 10:50 PM 8/9/00, Steven Winslow wrote: >Gents, > >I've got an Amplifone tube in the garage that was sold to me in a bulk deal >by a friend as "untested." They obtained it from an old operator. It is now >tested to be NOT WORKING. I tested it in a good working Star Wars. It has >the typical burns in the center of the tube. I almost trashed it but then >remembered some discussions a while back about parts on it that some of you >may want. The yoke, shunts and nipple on the end of the neck seem to be in >good shape and may be of some value. > >I could use a tested - good Amplifone deflection board for my on-going >vector projects. I could also use a tested - good Asteroids Deluxe board. > >Understandably these boards are worth more than a NFG tube so payment would >also be a part of the deal. If there is any interest please LMK directly >at winslow@earthlink.net >If no interest then I guess I'll put it up on EGAY because I need to clear >the space in the garage for more cabinets !!! :-) > >Thanks for your consideration. > >Steve > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >** questions, comments, or problems to neil . John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Thu Aug 10 15:35:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA28259 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:35:23 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA64117 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:40:04 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <009701c00301$86977f60$baa05b18@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Appolo" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000809225016.00855df0@earthlink.net> Subject: VECTOR: WTT: Vector Parts Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:31:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Hey guys, I'm looking for the following parts: - Deflection board for an Amplifone monitor - Tube for a WG 61xx monitor - Star Wars boardset - Tempest boardset I have a few misc parts as trade bait: - 2 spare HV boards (red-is-dead) for the Amplifone - 1 untested HV cage + board for a WG 61xx - Firefox boardset (yeah, I know this isn't laserlist) - 2 dead Tempest boardsets - Numerous other boards (just ask) Thanks. Mike Appolo http://www.appolo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Thu Aug 10 15:54:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA31686 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:54:24 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA64162 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:51:51 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.0.20000810153848.00a9c800@pop.atl.mediaone.net> X-Sender: someotherguy@pop.atl.mediaone.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:40:53 -0400 To: vectorlist From: someotherguy Subject: Re: VECTOR: FT: Amplifone Tube - NON WORKING In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000810113333.00a93a30 > References: <3.0.6.32.20000809225016.00855df0@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO John, there seem to be quite a few rejuvenators on eBay. I've been watching them for a while, and have been wondering which ones would be good candidates for use with classic arcade monitors. There's plenty of B&K and Sencore units, could you (or another list member) recommend certain models for use with classic vector and raster monitors? Thanks... Richard http://people.atl.mediaone.net/someotherguy At 11:35 AM 8/10/00 -0700, you wrote: >How is the tube "not working"? You might be wise to see if anyone you know >has a tube rejuvenator. I've brought a few tubes back from the dead with >ours. They show up on eBay every now and then sell around $50 or so... >Some faults in tubes are not fatal, sometimes the tube can be saved if >shorted by running a separate filament transformer. > >John :-#)# > >At 10:50 PM 8/9/00, Steven Winslow wrote: >>Gents, >> >>I've got an Amplifone tube in the garage that was sold to me in a bulk deal >>by a friend as "untested." They obtained it from an old operator. It is now >>tested to be NOT WORKING. I tested it in a good working Star Wars. It has >>the typical burns in the center of the tube. I almost trashed it but then >>remembered some discussions a while back about parts on it that some of you >>may want. The yoke, shunts and nipple on the end of the neck seem to be in >>good shape and may be of some value. >> >>I could use a tested - good Amplifone deflection board for my on-going >>vector projects. I could also use a tested - good Asteroids Deluxe board. >> >>Understandably these boards are worth more than a NFG tube so payment would >>also be a part of the deal. If there is any interest please LMK directly >>at winslow@earthlink.net >>If no interest then I guess I'll put it up on EGAY because I need to clear >>the space in the garage for more cabinets !!! :-) >> >>Thanks for your consideration. >> >>Steve >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >>** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >>** questions, comments, or problems to neil . > > > John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 > Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) > http://www.flippers.com > "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >** questions, comments, or problems to neil . --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Thu Aug 10 16:58:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA09633 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:58:09 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA64458 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:53:28 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000810134242.00b8c7c0 > X-Sender: a1a96636@pop.telus.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:43:34 -0700 To: vectorlist From: John Robertson Subject: Re: VECTOR: FT: Amplifone Tube - NON WORKING In-Reply-To: <4.3.0.20000810153848.00a9c800@pop.atl.mediaone.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000810113333.00a93a30 > <3.0.6.32.20000809225016.00855df0@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO I use the B&K 465 (?) model with an adapter cable I got from a local TV wholesaler. John :-#)# At 12:40 PM 8/10/00, someotherguy wrote: >John, there seem to be quite a few rejuvenators on eBay. I've been >watching them for a while, and have been wondering which ones would be >good candidates for use with classic arcade monitors. There's plenty of >B&K and Sencore units, could you (or another list member) recommend >certain models for use with classic vector and raster monitors? Thanks... > >Richard >http://people.atl.mediaone.net/someotherguy > >At 11:35 AM 8/10/00 -0700, you wrote: >>How is the tube "not working"? You might be wise to see if anyone you >>know has a tube rejuvenator. I've brought a few tubes back from the dead >>with ours. They show up on eBay every now and then sell around $50 or so... >>Some faults in tubes are not fatal, sometimes the tube can be saved if >>shorted by running a separate filament transformer. >> >>John :-#)# >> >>At 10:50 PM 8/9/00, Steven Winslow wrote: >>>Gents, >>> >>>I've got an Amplifone tube in the garage that was sold to me in a bulk deal >>>by a friend as "untested." They obtained it from an old operator. It is now >>>tested to be NOT WORKING. I tested it in a good working Star Wars. It has >>>the typical burns in the center of the tube. I almost trashed it but then >>>remembered some discussions a while back about parts on it that some of you >>>may want. The yoke, shunts and nipple on the end of the neck seem to be in >>>good shape and may be of some value. >>> >>>I could use a tested - good Amplifone deflection board for my on-going >>>vector projects. I could also use a tested - good Asteroids Deluxe board. >>> >>>Understandably these boards are worth more than a NFG tube so payment would >>>also be a part of the deal. If there is any interest please LMK directly >>>at winslow@earthlink.net >>>If no interest then I guess I'll put it up on EGAY because I need to clear >>>the space in the garage for more cabinets !!! :-) >>> >>>Thanks for your consideration. >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >>>** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >>>** questions, comments, or problems to neil . >> >> >> John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 >> Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) >> http://www.flippers.com >> "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >>** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >>** questions, comments, or problems to neil . > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >** questions, comments, or problems to neil . 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From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 00:30:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA02739 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:29:59 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA65871 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:31:02 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <39937F25.6C13DCEC@mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:20:53 -0400 From: someotherguy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-MOEATL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vectorlist Subject: VECTOR: FS/FT: WG6100 parts for tinkerers References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000810113333.00a93a30 > <3.0.6.32.20000809225016.00855df0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO In the spirit of trading broken (but hopefully useful) stuff, I have the following to offer: 1. Wells-Gardner 6100 frame & tube. No deflection board or HV cage. Has neck board and harnesses associated with the frame transistors. I believe the vacuum has escaped from the tube, or there's some other problem with it. Hopefully someone can use the yoke, neckboard, etc. 2. Wells-Gardner 6100 frame, this is just the metal frame (might be missing one side) with frame transistors, neck board, and some harness pieces. 3. Wells-Gardner 6100 HV unit, transformer is cracked, there are some burns on the bottom of the board. None of it is worth much to me, and I'm sure it's not worth much to anyone else. I'm interested in cash offers, or parts for color raster games, typically Bally/Midway and Williams. Richard http://people.atl.mediaone.net/someotherguy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 00:59:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA05498 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:59:37 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA65940 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:01:31 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <000801c00350$ac02b720$9a43fea9@Default> From: "Gregg Woodcock" To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000810113333.00a93a30 > <39937F25.6C13DCEC@mediaone.net> Subject: Re: VECTOR: FS/FT: WG6100 parts for tinkerers Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:57:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO ----- Original Message ----- From: "someotherguy" To: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:20 PM Subject: VECTOR: FS/FT: WG6100 parts for tinkerers > In the spirit of trading broken (but hopefully useful) stuff, I have the following > to offer: > > 1. Wells-Gardner 6100 frame & tube. No deflection board or HV cage. Has neck > board and harnesses associated with the frame transistors. I believe the vacuum > has escaped from the tube, or there's some other problem with it. Hopefully > someone can use the yoke, neckboard, etc. > > 2. Wells-Gardner 6100 frame, this is just the metal frame (might be missing one > side) with frame transistors, neck board, and some harness pieces. > > 3. Wells-Gardner 6100 HV unit, transformer is cracked, there are some burns on the > bottom of the board. > > None of it is worth much to me, and I'm sure it's not worth much to anyone else. > I'm interested in cash offers, or parts for color raster games, typically > Bally/Midway and Williams. I am interested in all of it. Care to trade for a non-working Joust boardset (all pieces)? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 01:05:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA06146 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:05:54 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA65955 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:07:42 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <002601c00351$89d8e060$9a43fea9@Default> From: "Gregg Woodcock" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000809225016.00855df0@earthlink.net> <009701c00301$86977f60$baa05b18@ne.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: VECTOR: WTT: Vector Parts Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:03:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Appolo" To: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 2:31 PM Subject: VECTOR: WTT: Vector Parts > Hey guys, > > I'm looking for the following parts: > > - Deflection board for an Amplifone monitor I have *ONE* more of these known working but am loathe at this point to part with it. If you have no other offers/alternatives, get back to me... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 01:12:39 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA06882 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:12:33 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA65989 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:15:30 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: acmech (Dan Todd) To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: FS/FT: WG6100 parts for tinkerers Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:12:08 GMT Message-ID: <39938a90.564572 > References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000810113333.00a93a30 > <39937F25.6C13DCEC@mediaone.net> In-Reply-To: <39937F25.6C13DCEC@mediaone.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by synthcom.com id WAA65986 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO I'm interested in #2 and #3 I'd trade a broken but complete Tron board and a Williams CPU without RAM not working but otherwise complete. Dan On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:20:53 -0400, you wrote: >In the spirit of trading broken (but hopefully useful) stuff, I have the following >to offer: > >1. Wells-Gardner 6100 frame & tube. No deflection board or HV cage. Has neck >board and harnesses associated with the frame transistors. I believe the vacuum >has escaped from the tube, or there's some other problem with it. Hopefully >someone can use the yoke, neckboard, etc. > >2. Wells-Gardner 6100 frame, this is just the metal frame (might be missing one >side) with frame transistors, neck board, and some harness pieces. > >3. Wells-Gardner 6100 HV unit, transformer is cracked, there are some burns on the >bottom of the board. > >None of it is worth much to me, and I'm sure it's not worth much to anyone else. >I'm interested in cash offers, or parts for color raster games, typically >Bally/Midway and Williams. > >Richard >http://people.atl.mediaone.net/someotherguy > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >** questions, comments, or problems to neil . --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 01:13:47 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA07026 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:13:46 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA66008 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:16:49 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:04:24 -0700 From: Al Kossow Message-Id: <200008110504.WAA26536 > To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: FS/FT: WG6100 parts for tinkerers Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO I am interested in all of it. Care to trade for a non-working Joust boardset (all pieces)? --- Please take this discussion off of the mailing list. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 01:26:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA08137 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:26:13 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA66064 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:26:48 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <05a701c00353$a439e380$3d00a8c0@TEMPEST> From: "Tempest" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000809225016.00855df0@earthlink.net> <009701c00301$86977f60$baa05b18@ne.mediaone.net> <002601c00351$89d8e060$9a43fea9@Default> Subject: Re: VECTOR: WTT: Vector Parts Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:18:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Hi Greg. Woops, this is the vectorlist. Oh well, we're both vectorheads, so this msg is ok. ;) You going to the Dallas auction? I'm going because I'm meeting Callan Hendricks and tradig some stuff -- thought the auctions would be fun. Thanks Kevin P. (You sold me my coveted Tempest, some 7 years ago ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Woodcock" To: Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 12:03 AM Subject: Re: VECTOR: WTT: Vector Parts > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Appolo" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 2:31 PM > Subject: VECTOR: WTT: Vector Parts > > > > Hey guys, > > > > I'm looking for the following parts: > > > > - Deflection board for an Amplifone monitor > > I have *ONE* more of these known working but am loathe at this point to part > with it. > If you have no other offers/alternatives, get back to me... > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other > ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 02:25:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA13087 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:24:59 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA66202 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:16:42 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:04:17 -0700 From: Al Kossow Message-Id: <200008110604.XAA03073 > To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: WTT: Vector Parts Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Oh well, we're both vectorheads, so this msg is ok. ;) You going to the Dallas auction? --- No, the message is NOT OK Over the past few days, the level of non-technical traffic has increased to the point where I would like to remind people that the purpose of the list is for technical discussions. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . 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From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 02:44:24 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA14424 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:44:23 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA66324 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:42:39 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <05c801c0035e$3c05dc00$3d00a8c0@TEMPEST> From: "Tempest" To: References: <200008110604.XAA03073 > Subject: Re: VECTOR: WTT: Vector Parts Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:34:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Piss off. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Kossow" To: Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:04 AM Subject: Re: VECTOR: WTT: Vector Parts > Oh well, we're both vectorheads, so this msg is ok. ;) > > You going to the Dallas auction? > > --- > > No, the message is NOT OK > Over the past few days, the level of non-technical > traffic has increased to the point where I would > like to remind people that the purpose of the list > is for technical discussions. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other > ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 02:49:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA14801 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:49:41 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA66374 for vectorlist-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:52:51 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-ID: <3993A01B.D06D1322@cedar-rapids.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:41:31 -0500 From: Rodger Boots Organization: No noticeable organization. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: FT: Amplifone Tube - NON WORKING References: <3.0.6.32.20000809225016.00855df0@earthlink.net> <4.3.0.20000810153848.00a9c800@pop.atl.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO I recommend B&K. someotherguy wrote: > John, there seem to be quite a few rejuvenators on eBay. I've been > watching them for a while, and have been wondering which ones would be good > candidates for use with classic arcade monitors. There's plenty of B&K and > Sencore units, could you (or another list member) recommend certain models > for use with classic vector and raster monitors? Thanks... > > Richard > http://people.atl.mediaone.net/someotherguy > > At 11:35 AM 8/10/00 -0700, you wrote: > >How is the tube "not working"? You might be wise to see if anyone you know > >has a tube rejuvenator. I've brought a few tubes back from the dead with > >ours. They show up on eBay every now and then sell around $50 or so... > >Some faults in tubes are not fatal, sometimes the tube can be saved if > >shorted by running a separate filament transformer. > > > >John :-#)# > > > >At 10:50 PM 8/9/00, Steven Winslow wrote: > >>Gents, > >> > >>I've got an Amplifone tube in the garage that was sold to me in a bulk deal > >>by a friend as "untested." They obtained it from an old operator. It is now > >>tested to be NOT WORKING. I tested it in a good working Star Wars. It has > >>the typical burns in the center of the tube. I almost trashed it but then > >>remembered some discussions a while back about parts on it that some of you > >>may want. The yoke, shunts and nipple on the end of the neck seem to be in > >>good shape and may be of some value. > >> > >>I could use a tested - good Amplifone deflection board for my on-going > >>vector projects. I could also use a tested - good Asteroids Deluxe board. > >> > >>Understandably these boards are worth more than a NFG tube so payment would > >>also be a part of the deal. If there is any interest please LMK directly > >>at winslow@earthlink.net > >>If no interest then I guess I'll put it up on EGAY because I need to clear > >>the space in the garage for more cabinets !!! :-) > >> > >>Thanks for your consideration. > >> > >>Steve > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > >>** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other > >>** questions, comments, or problems to neil . > > > > > > John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 > > Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) > > http://www.flippers.com > > "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > >** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other > >** questions, comments, or problems to neil . > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other > ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . -- Windows: 32 bit graphical interface for a 16 bit patch for an 8 bit operating system written for a 4 bit processor by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 03:18:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA17611 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 03:18:10 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA66452 for vectorlist-outgoing; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:22:29 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:10:04 -0700 From: Al Kossow Message-Id: <200008110710.AAA07109 > To: vectorlist Subject: Re: VECTOR: WTT: Vector Parts Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Piss off. --- ahem.. Neil? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 11:10:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: from orion.smart.net (orion.smart.net [207.176.80.105]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA01265 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:04:01 -0400 Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by orion.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07601 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:39:53 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA67634 for vectorlist-outgoing; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:44:14 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.0.20000811103236.00aeccb0@pop.atl.mediaone.net> X-Sender: someotherguy@pop.atl.mediaone.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:33:09 -0400 To: vectorlist From: someotherguy Subject: Re: VECTOR: FS/FT: WG6100 parts for tinkerers In-Reply-To: <200008110504.WAA26536 > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Fair enough, Al, I'll take it off the mailing list. And next time, I'll take it straight to eBay. At 10:04 PM 8/10/00 -0700, you wrote: >I am interested in all of it. Care to trade for a non-working Joust >boardset (all pieces)? > >--- > >Please take this discussion off of the mailing list. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >** questions, comments, or problems to neil . --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 13:38:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA25769 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:38:12 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA68106 for vectorlist-outgoing; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:40:04 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000811102615.00d01970 > X-Sender: a1a96636@pop.telus.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:30:13 -0700 To: vectorlist From: John Robertson Subject: Re: VECTOR: FS/FT: WG6100 parts for tinkerers In-Reply-To: <4.3.0.20000811103236.00aeccb0@pop.atl.mediaone.net> References: <200008110504.WAA26536 > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO I think the point here that Al, I and others feel is important is this mail-list is for the care and feeding of VECTOR games only. If you spend a moment looking in the headers of messages posted here you will find the senders email address, then you can reply directly and thus not bother other folks about non-vector stuff. 'nuff said. There is a rasterlist, and if anyone needs the subscription address they can privately email me for that. John :-#)# At 07:33 AM 8/11/00, someotherguy wrote: >Fair enough, Al, I'll take it off the mailing list. And next time, I'll >take it straight to eBay. > >At 10:04 PM 8/10/00 -0700, you wrote: >>I am interested in all of it. Care to trade for a non-working Joust >>boardset (all pieces)? >> >>--- >> >>Please take this discussion off of the mailing list. >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >>** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >>** questions, comments, or problems to neil . > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other >** questions, comments, or problems to neil . John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 13:58:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28804 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:58:11 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA68189 for vectorlist-outgoing; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:02:35 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) From: Thomas43 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:51:09 EDT Subject: Re: VECTOR: FS/FT: WG6100 parts for tinkerers To: vectorlist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 66 Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO In a message dated 8/11/00 9:30:40 AM, jrr writes: << I think the point here that Al, I and others feel is important is this mail-list is for the care and feeding of VECTOR games only. If you spend a moment looking in the headers of messages posted here you will find the senders email address, then you can reply directly and thus not bother other folks about non-vector stuff. 'nuff said. There is a rasterlist, and if anyone needs the subscription address they can privately email me for that. John :-#)# >> I think AL's point is that replies to FS: and WTB: messages should be sent via private email, and not as a post to the entire list. You have to be sure to remove the vectorlist address from your replies to these posts. Scott --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request . Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil . From owner-vectorlist Fri Aug 11 14:41:03 2000 Return-Path: Received: from synthcom.com (ip67.usw3.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.141.67]) by smarty.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA02693 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:41:01 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by synthcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA68419 for vectorlist-outgoing; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:41:26 GMT (envelope-from owner-vectorlist ) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000811113652.00879760@earthlink.net> X-Sender: winslow@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:36:52 -0700 To: vectorlist From: Steven Winslow Subject: Re: VECTOR: FT: Amplifone Tube - NON WORKING In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000809225016.00855df0@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-vectorlist Precedence: bulk Reply-To: vectorlist Status: RO Wow ! I've started