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The header with the "VECTOR" in it helps with sorting mail automatically
too; for example: all my vector mail goes into a box labeled
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From: "Christopher X. Candreva" <chris >
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On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 nelsonjjjj  wrote:

> The header with the "VECTOR" in it helps with sorting mail automatically
> too; for example: all my vector mail goes into a box labeled
> "VECTOR" and I can delete or save with reckless abandon without
> too much worry!

Not to get too far off topic -- but I've always been able to filter based on
any header line. For example, all vectorlist posts have this header:

Sender: owner-vectorlist 

which makes the VECTOR: in the Subject redundant, at least for filtering by
a program. 

This is a common argument on any mailing list. People using Unix accounts
and procmail or Eudora on Win can't understand why the Subject: LISTNAME is
necessary, and people with other programs can't see the hidden headers.

On the other hand, if the people who wan to filter can do it on the Sender:
line, I would personally love to see the Subject: LISTNAME go and get more
usable Subject space.


-Chris

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Anyway, I'm trying to restore a Space Fury cocktail.  It works fine, but
the top glass was destroyed.  I got a replacement top glass, but I need
the following information:

1) Was the top glass "screened" with black paint, or just clear?

2) Mine does not have a monitor bezel; did the cocktail have a bezel?
What was it made of, plastic or cardboard?

3) Does anyone know where I can get that "stuff" that goes between the top
glass and the wooden top?  Atari uses like a strip of black stuff which
goes underneath the black trim lines.  

4) Anyone have any pics of what the top is supposed to look like when it's
done?

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On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Neil Bradley wrote:
>
> More than half of us use telnet style email programs since some of us
> can't get through our firewalls at work using normal POP3, and having
> it there is invaluable.

As long as we're on the subject, would it be possible to automagically
filter out HTML mail?  It's pretty horrific to try and read an email, only
to see that it's two or three times longer than it needs to be because a
mail client has duplicated the mail's contents as an HTML attachment after
the message.  

Since most HTML-doubled messages appear as file attachments of the HTML
alongside the original mail, any filter which stripped attachments from
mail bound for vector/rasterlist could also serve double duty by
stripping the HTML attachments.

(In general, HTML in mail is IMHO evil - after all, mail is supposed to be
readable regardless of what client one is using, and a web browser and an
email client are two wholly different things.  I don't see any cases where
the HTML is actually being *used* anyways.  It's just one of those bits of
bloat and chrome that lazy software deisgners have thrown into their
products without thinking of the impact it has on other users.)

Later,
Doug.

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Last night I double checked and did a file compare
with the ROM's I have against the one's Rodger 
posted and they are the same file(s) & check sums. 

We know the speech is there, it's documented and
there are wav files for MAME so someone had to 
sample them.  Is it possible that a component failure 
either on the speech board or CPU board would prevent
these phrases from being triggered or is it possible to
force the speech board to say these (for testing purposes) ?


Todd Miller, LAN Administrator
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Tod Miller wrote:
> 
> We know the speech is there, it's documented and
> there are wav files for MAME so someone had to 
> sample them.  Is it possible that a component failure 
> either on the speech board or CPU board would prevent
> these phrases from being triggered or is it possible to
> force the speech board to say these (for testing purposes) ?
> 

It is possible to test the board outside of the cage. You
would need to hook up a power supply capable of +5V and -5V
to the appropriate points (across C49 and C48 respectively)
and you'd need a scope to 'see' the output. The opamp, U8,
might be able to drive high impedance headphone speakers,
maybe, but I'd use a scope. To exercise a phrase you'd
need to set it's 5 bit code on D0 thru D4, the inputs to
the latch U21 (74LS273) then toggle U21's CLK input, by
quickly grounding then releasing the CLK pin (pin 11).
The codes for the phrases are shown below. Review the 
schematics before you try this. Good Luck.

00 = no phrase
01 = "COMMAND THE ENTERPRISE"
02 = "PLAY STAR TREK"
03 = "WELCOME ABOARD, CAPTAIN" (SPOCK)
04 = "CONGRATULATIONS"
05 = "HIGH SCORE"
06 = "PRESS PLAYER ONE"
07 = "OR PLAYER TWO"
08 = "START"
09 = "BE THE CAPTAIN OF THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE" (SCOTTY)
0A = "DAMAGE REPAIRED, SIR" (SCOTTY)
0B = "SECTOR SECURED" (CHECKOV)
0C = "ENTERING SECTOR" (SPOCK)
0D = "ZERO"
0E = "ONE"
0F = "TWO"
10 = "THREE"
11 = "FOUR"
12 = "FIVE"
13 = "SIX"
14 = "SEVEN"
15 = "EIGHT"
16 = "NINE"
17 = "POINT"
18 = "POINT" (HIGHER PITCH)
19 = "RED ALERT"

Dave
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The more likely problem was that they put the speech in there thinking they
were going to use it, but never added the calls in the game software to trigger
them.

As for the WAV files, I always thought these were sound effect generated by
special hardware.  But they aren't!  There are 51 separate samples, mostly
voice samples, in there.



Todd Miller wrote:

> Last night I double checked and did a file compare
> with the ROM's I have against the one's Rodger
> posted and they are the same file(s) & check sums.
>
> We know the speech is there, it's documented and
> there are wav files for MAME so someone had to
> sample them.  Is it possible that a component failure
> either on the speech board or CPU board would prevent
> these phrases from being triggered or is it possible to
> force the speech board to say these (for testing purposes) ?
>
> Todd Miller, LAN Administrator
> Ron Weber and  Associates
> 103 E. State Street, Mason City, IA 50401
> (515)423-4293/(515)423-4594 FAX
> http://www.telethinking.com <http://www.telethinking.com>
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This thread was being tossed around a bit last week.  I just got a set =
of the reproduction overlays for Tempest (the CP and marquee) from =
Steven Gregory (same as the ones from Herb at FabFan)

They are very nice and I would not hesitate to tell someone to get them =
from him.  The marquee overlay graphics are not as crisp as the original =
- but standing at a 'playing' distance from the game its looks great.  =
Sure, stick your face up to it and there are some flaws - but hey, it =
looks alot better than the ripped, cracked, and cigarette burned one =
that is on my cab now.

Just thought I would follow up on this.

Walt


Hey Roy - Hurry up with that next run of Black Widow overlays would ya!! =
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Hex codes 18 and 19 below aren't in the MAME samples.


"Fish, David" wrote:

> Tod Miller wrote:
> >
> > We know the speech is there, it's documented and
> > there are wav files for MAME so someone had to
> > sample them.  Is it possible that a component failure
> > either on the speech board or CPU board would prevent
> > these phrases from being triggered or is it possible to
> > force the speech board to say these (for testing purposes) ?
> >
>
> It is possible to test the board outside of the cage. You
> would need to hook up a power supply capable of +5V and -5V
> to the appropriate points (across C49 and C48 respectively)
> and you'd need a scope to 'see' the output. The opamp, U8,
> might be able to drive high impedance headphone speakers,
> maybe, but I'd use a scope. To exercise a phrase you'd
> need to set it's 5 bit code on D0 thru D4, the inputs to
> the latch U21 (74LS273) then toggle U21's CLK input, by
> quickly grounding then releasing the CLK pin (pin 11).
> The codes for the phrases are shown below. Review the
> schematics before you try this. Good Luck.
>
> 00 = no phrase
> 01 = "COMMAND THE ENTERPRISE"
> 02 = "PLAY STAR TREK"
> 03 = "WELCOME ABOARD, CAPTAIN" (SPOCK)
> 04 = "CONGRATULATIONS"
> 05 = "HIGH SCORE"
> 06 = "PRESS PLAYER ONE"
> 07 = "OR PLAYER TWO"
> 08 = "START"
> 09 = "BE THE CAPTAIN OF THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE" (SCOTTY)
> 0A = "DAMAGE REPAIRED, SIR" (SCOTTY)
> 0B = "SECTOR SECURED" (CHECKOV)
> 0C = "ENTERING SECTOR" (SPOCK)
> 0D = "ZERO"
> 0E = "ONE"
> 0F = "TWO"
> 10 = "THREE"
> 11 = "FOUR"
> 12 = "FIVE"
> 13 = "SIX"
> 14 = "SEVEN"
> 15 = "EIGHT"
> 16 = "NINE"
> 17 = "POINT"
> 18 = "POINT" (HIGHER PITCH)
> 19 = "RED ALERT"
>
> Dave
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John,

I do - but I may be a little different. Because of the time difference I
have the list go to my work account and read it during the day. However in
my job I can get up to 300 mails a day.

The vector helps me quickly identify these so I can read them immediatley if
it is quiet - or shift them to a folder for lunch time if it is busy.

That's just me but... 

Cheers
MacMan

> ----------
> From: 	John Robertson
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> Sent: 	Wednesday, 01 March 2000 15:35
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> Do we need the "VECTOR:" in the subject line? Seems redundant to me...(as 
> one who has not posted any attachments to the list ;-)
> 
> John :-#)#
> 
> At 01:36 PM 2/29/2000 -0800, you wrote:
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> >it, I'll find a home here on Synthcom for the listmembers.
> >
> >-->Neil
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> >----
> >Neil Bradley           Seti@Home Hall of Shame on a 80386DX16, Intel
> 80387
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">The vector helps me quickly =
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">That's just me but... </FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">MacMan</FONT>
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<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Geneva">From:</FONT></B> &nbsp; <FONT =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Monaco">Do we need the &quot;VECTOR:&quot; in =
the subject line? Seems redundant to me...(as </FONT>
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attachments to the list ;-)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Monaco">John :-#)#</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Monaco">At 01:36 PM 2/29/2000 -0800, you =
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Synthcom for the listmembers.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Monaco">&nbsp; John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main =
St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Monaco">&nbsp; Call (604)872-5757 or Fax =
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FS:

A pair of Tek 465's 100mhz scopes.  One works, the other
is DOA.  I'm no scope expert, but I have used the working one
for about a year ½ with no problems. Trace is bright, sweeps
fine and has XY mode.  No guarantee on the calibration.  
$275 + S & H

http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/465.JPG
<http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/465.JPG> 

http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/parts465.jpg
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15 " BW XY monitor. Has Omega Race burn in. Same as
used in BattleZone/Asteroids cabaret or cocktail.  Works good,
I let it run all weekend on my Asteroids cocktail with no problems.
$100 + S & H

UR BattleZone wiring harness, looks like it was removed nice
and clean, appears to be complete.  
$40 includes Priority Mail via. USPS to the US


Epic programmer. See URL below 
Used once to make a few mod chips.
http://www.melabs.com/mel/epic.htm <http://www.melabs.com/mel/epic.htm> 
$30 includes Priority Mail via USPS to the US


Shipping will be based on packaged weight
and destination zip code via UPS.


Todd Miller, LAN Administrator
Ron Weber and  Associates
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Gang,

My first question:

When I run self test the controller is perfectly aligned, but when I play
the game the controller needs to be at about 35 degrees to fly straight.

I read in the manual last night that it has a self calibrating controller
and by playing the game and moving it to the extremes of the screen it would
calibrate itself - it didn't, and the manual doesn't elaborate any further.

I probably rushed it, being excited and all, but am I doing it right?

Cheers
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">My first question:</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">When I run self test the =
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">I read in the manual last =
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Gang,

You may remember a bit of whinging done by me back in December about the
complete lack of vector games in Australia - particularly color vectors
where after two years of searching I have not been able to find one.

There are only 4 KNOWN color vectors in Australia - if there are more - we
have not been able to find them.

It was also hard to buy one from you guys as when it became available for
sale - it would then take a couple of weeks to source transport and quotes
and stuff like that - by which time most people wanted it out for space or
cash.

Following the mail I had a tremendous response from a lot of you willing to
sell me a color vector and wait for me to arrange the shipping - thank you
all!!!

I finally settled on an offer of an upright Star Wars from Chris Loggans.

In Australia, Leisure and Allied only brought in a couple of uprights and
they are long gone. I only ever saw one. They prefered to make the cockpits
locally - and so that is what Australia got. Well, there was no way I could
do another cockpit (Sinistar and STUN Runner are heavy enough) and so the
upright was most attractive.

DHL came in with a reasonable price on shipping (most other companies
wouldn't even deal with me unless I was an account customer), and so the
deal with Chris was struck.

Chris also managed to find a boardset with Clay's multigame on it - thanks
so much Clay!!! We never saw Empire in Australia - by the time it came out
most vectors were trashed by Ops!!!!!!! (Now - about that Asteroids
multigame....)

When the machine was finally ready to ship I rang back DHL to confirm the
price and mysteriously the shipping price had doubled!!!! Turned out that
Australia and the USA have different rates and processes. To get the cheaper
rate it had to be booked and paid for in the USA.

Finally Chris was able to ship it, and then when at the DHL Service Centre
found that shipping would be an extra $600 due to the crate - paid that
money in trust on his CC, and waited patiently for me to get the money
together to send him. Thanks again Chris.

When it finally got to Sydney it sat in customs for 10 days while DHL looked
for a second parcel that was scanned onto my airbill number - even though I
rang them several times and explained there was only one thing - the crate.

Finally it cleared customs yesterday and DHL couldn't deliver it - they
assumed that if you import something that size - you would be in the frieght
business and would own a forklift to get it off the truck.

I assumed that if you were in the freight business you would have a lift
tail truck to be able to deliver to people who did not have a forklift.

After complaining that I did not condsider the fact they couldn't get it off
the truck to be door to door service, they finally agreed to deliver it and
have the driver wait while we dismantled the crate and moved the machine off
the truck by hand.

And that's just about it - a couple of jumpers on the power plug and away it
went. There was much celebrating - so much so I shouldn't have driven to
work this morning as I am so hung over!!!!

A public thanks to Chris for going through all this. It's great that another
collector would go the extra mile when he could have just sold it locally
and be over and done with it in a day!!!!

So Australia now has 5 known working color vectors!!!!!!

One interesting thing came out of it - the DHL shipping girl questioned why
the crate, which I explained was to protect the machine. She reckons that I
could have save about $500 by using a palette cut to size and cardboard all
around - this is how most arcade machines are imported - just like fridges.

I told her I was worried about damage and she said that was why I paid
insurance. She went away and checked some stuff and rang back in the
afternoon and told me that if I wanted to ship that way in the future
(palette and cardboard) I can be safe in the knowledge that they have never
had an insurance claim lodged on any amusement machine that have imported.

Thanks all
MacMan



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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">Gang,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">You may remember a bit of =
whinging done by me back in December about the complete lack of vector =
games in Australia - particularly color vectors where after two years =
of searching I have not been able to find one.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">There are only 4 KNOWN color =
vectors in Australia - if there are more - we have not been able to =
find them.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">It was also hard to buy one =
from you guys as when it became available for sale - it would then take =
a couple of weeks to source transport and quotes and stuff like that - =
by which time most people wanted it out for space or cash.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">Following the mail I had a =
tremendous response from a lot of you willing to sell me a color vector =
and wait for me to arrange the shipping - thank you all!!!</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">I finally settled on an offer =
of an upright Star Wars from Chris Loggans.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">In Australia, Leisure and =
Allied only brought in a couple of uprights and they are long gone. I =
only ever saw one. They prefered to make the cockpits locally - and so =
that is what Australia got. Well, there was no way I could do another =
cockpit (Sinistar and STUN Runner are heavy enough) and so the upright =
was most attractive.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">DHL came in with a reasonable =
price on shipping (most other companies wouldn't even deal with me =
unless I was an account customer), and so the deal with Chris was =
struck.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">Chris also managed to find a =
boardset with Clay's multigame on it - thanks so much Clay!!! We never =
saw Empire in Australia - by the time it came out most vectors were =
trashed by Ops!!!!!!! (Now - about that Asteroids =
multigame....)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">When the machine was finally =
ready to ship I rang back DHL to confirm the price and mysteriously the =
shipping price had doubled!!!! Turned out that Australia and the USA =
have different rates and processes. To get the cheaper rate it had to =
be booked and paid for in the USA.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">Finally Chris was able to =
ship it, and then when at the DHL Service Centre found that shipping =
would be an extra $600 due to the crate - paid that money in trust on =
his CC, and waited patiently for me to get the money together to send =
him. Thanks again Chris.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">When it finally got to Sydney =
it sat in customs for 10 days while DHL looked for a second parcel that =
was scanned onto my airbill number - even though I rang them several =
times and explained there was only one thing - the crate.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">Finally it cleared customs =
yesterday and DHL couldn't deliver it - they assumed that if you import =
something that size - you would be in the frieght business and would =
own a forklift to get it off the truck.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">I assumed that if you were in =
the freight business you would have a lift tail truck to be able to =
deliver to people who did not have a forklift.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">After complaining that I did =
not condsider the fact they couldn't get it off the truck to be door to =
door service, they finally agreed to deliver it and have the driver =
wait while we dismantled the crate and moved the machine off the truck =
by hand.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">And that's just about it - a =
couple of jumpers on the power plug and away it went. There was much =
celebrating - so much so I shouldn't have driven to work this morning =
as I am so hung over!!!!</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">A public thanks to Chris for =
going through all this. It's great that another collector would go the =
extra mile when he could have just sold it locally and be over and done =
with it in a day!!!!</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">So Australia now has 5 known =
working color vectors!!!!!!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">One interesting thing came =
out of it - the DHL shipping girl questioned why the crate, which I =
explained was to protect the machine. She reckons that I could have =
save about $500 by using a palette cut to size and cardboard all around =
- this is how most arcade machines are imported - just like =
fridges.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">I told her I was worried =
about damage and she said that was why I paid insurance. She went away =
and checked some stuff and rang back in the afternoon and told me that =
if I wanted to ship that way in the future (palette and cardboard) I =
can be safe in the knowledge that they have never had an insurance =
claim lodged on any amusement machine that have imported.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks all</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial">MacMan</FONT>
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Thanks,
I would like to buy the Pic programmer.
where do I send the money?

James Nelson
4 Old Farm Rd.
Salem, NH  03079

----- Original Message -----
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FS:

A pair of Tek 465's 100mhz scopes.  One works, the other
is DOA.  I'm no scope expert, but I have used the working one
for about a year ½ with no problems. Trace is bright, sweeps
fine and has XY mode.  No guarantee on the calibration.
$275 + S & H

http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/465.JPG
<http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/465.JPG>

http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/parts465.jpg
<http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/parts465.jpg>


15 " BW XY monitor. Has Omega Race burn in. Same as
used in BattleZone/Asteroids cabaret or cocktail.  Works good,
I let it run all weekend on my Asteroids cocktail with no problems.
$100 + S & H

UR BattleZone wiring harness, looks like it was removed nice
and clean, appears to be complete.
$40 includes Priority Mail via. USPS to the US


Epic programmer. See URL below
Used once to make a few mod chips.
http://www.melabs.com/mel/epic.htm <http://www.melabs.com/mel/epic.htm>
$30 includes Priority Mail via USPS to the US


Shipping will be based on packaged weight
and destination zip code via UPS.


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> Thanks,
> I would like to buy the Pic programmer.
> where do I send the money?
> James Nelson
> 4 Old Farm Rd.
> Salem, NH  03079

Please check the "reply-to" and when replying to FS: posts, contact the
seller directly instead of the list. Thank you!

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DOH!  I'm always thinking how lame it is to reply to the list for private
conversations, and there I went and did it myself.

SORRY EVERYONE

Sincerely,
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somebody else beat you to it. If he backs out your next.

Thanks

Todd


James Nelson wrote:

> Thanks,
> I would like to buy the Pic programmer.
> where do I send the money?
>
> James Nelson
> 4 Old Farm Rd.
> Salem, NH  03079
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Todd Miller <Todd.Miller >
> To: <vectorlist >
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 3:51 PM
> Subject: VECTOR: FS: Scopes, BW XY Mon, BZ harness, PIC programmer
>
> FS:
>
> A pair of Tek 465's 100mhz scopes.  One works, the other
> is DOA.  I'm no scope expert, but I have used the working one
> for about a year ½ with no problems. Trace is bright, sweeps
> fine and has XY mode.  No guarantee on the calibration.
> $275 + S & H
>
> http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/465.JPG
> <http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/465.JPG>
>
> http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/parts465.jpg
> <http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/parts465.jpg>
>
> 15 " BW XY monitor. Has Omega Race burn in. Same as
> used in BattleZone/Asteroids cabaret or cocktail.  Works good,
> I let it run all weekend on my Asteroids cocktail with no problems.
> $100 + S & H
>
> UR BattleZone wiring harness, looks like it was removed nice
> and clean, appears to be complete.
> $40 includes Priority Mail via. USPS to the US
>
> Epic programmer. See URL below
> Used once to make a few mod chips.
> http://www.melabs.com/mel/epic.htm <http://www.melabs.com/mel/epic.htm>
> $30 includes Priority Mail via USPS to the US
>
> Shipping will be based on packaged weight
> and destination zip code via UPS.
>
> Todd Miller, LAN Administrator
> Ron Weber and  Associates
> 103 E. State Street, Mason City, IA 50401
> (515)423-4293/(515)423-4594 FAX
> http://www.telethinking.com <http://www.telethinking.com>
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Damn it, I did it also !  Boy do I feel stupid right now :-(

so far the PIC programmer & monitor are pending...

	


	From:	Todd Miller [SMTP:litterbox@netconx.net]
	Sent:	Wednesday, March 01, 2000 6:33 PM
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	somebody else beat you to it. If he backs out your next.

	Thanks

	Todd


	James Nelson wrote:

	> Thanks,
	> I would like to buy the Pic programmer.
	> where do I send the money?
	>
	> James Nelson
	> 4 Old Farm Rd.
	> Salem, NH  03079
	>
	> ----- Original Message -----
	> From: Todd Miller <Todd.Miller >
	> To: <vectorlist >
	> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 3:51 PM
	> Subject: VECTOR: FS: Scopes, BW XY Mon, BZ harness, PIC programmer
	>
	> FS:
	>
	> A pair of Tek 465's 100mhz scopes.  One works, the other
	> is DOA.  I'm no scope expert, but I have used the working one
	> for about a year ½ with no problems. Trace is bright, sweeps
	> fine and has XY mode.  No guarantee on the calibration.
	> $275 + S & H
	>
	> http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/465.JPG
	> <http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/465.JPG>
	>
	> http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/parts465.jpg
	> <http://www.netconx.net/~litterbox/graphics/parts465.jpg>
	>
	> 15 " BW XY monitor. Has Omega Race burn in. Same as
	> used in BattleZone/Asteroids cabaret or cocktail.  Works good,
	> I let it run all weekend on my Asteroids cocktail with no
problems.
	> $100 + S & H
	>
	> UR BattleZone wiring harness, looks like it was removed nice
	> and clean, appears to be complete.
	> $40 includes Priority Mail via. USPS to the US
	>
	> Epic programmer. See URL below
	> Used once to make a few mod chips.
	> http://www.melabs.com/mel/epic.htm
<http://www.melabs.com/mel/epic.htm>
	> $30 includes Priority Mail via USPS to the US
	>
	> Shipping will be based on packaged weight
	> and destination zip code via UPS.
	>
	> Todd Miller, LAN Administrator
	> Ron Weber and  Associates
	> 103 E. State Street, Mason City, IA 50401
	> (515)423-4293/(515)423-4594 FAX
	> http://www.telethinking.com <http://www.telethinking.com>
	>
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>We know the speech is there, it's documented and
>there are wav files for MAME so someone had to
>sample them.  Is it possible that a component failure
>either on the speech board or CPU board would prevent
>these phrases from being triggered or is it possible to
>force the speech board to say these (for testing purposes) ?

I'll actually wager a guess that someone manually triggered the samples from 
a sound board for the sake of recording them.  It's possible that they just 
triggered phrases that aren't normally used in game-play.

Someone should patch MAME to log all write to the sound-board I/O port 
latches and play a few complete games of startrek and run through all the 
self-test.  See what phrases writes get logged.

(Didn't you do this once upon a time, Al?)

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	It is possible to test the board outside of the cage. You
	would need to hook up a power supply capable of +5V and -5V
	to the appropriate points (across C49 and C48 respectively)
	and you'd need a scope to 'see' the output. The opamp, U8,
	might be able to drive high impedance headphone speakers,
	maybe, but I'd use a scope. To exercise a phrase you'd
	need to set it's 5 bit code on D0 thru D4, the inputs to
	the latch U21 (74LS273) then toggle U21's CLK input, by
	quickly grounding then releasing the CLK pin (pin 11).
	The codes for the phrases are shown below. Review the 
	schematics before you try this. Good Luck.
	
	Great Info...Thanks !

	I tried this last night with limited success.  On U21 I lifted
pins 3, 4, 7, 8, 13 (D0-D4 respectively) and either tied them
to Grd or +5 and tripped the clock like you said.  I could get
it to say phrases, but it would lock up and I'd have to reboot 
the game several times.  I was actually better off leaving pin 13 
floating, that caused less lockups and netted me more speech.
I walked it trough a few phrases but some times it would switch
the phrase with out me changing D0-D4.  I'm going to get some
better mini-clips today and try again tonight. 


Todd Miller
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When I first turn the machine on and play the first game, I calibrate the
controller by moving it to the 4 corners of the screen and holding that
position for about a second and a half during the level selection screen.

Works every time.


	- Matt





At 09:12 AM 3/2/00 +1100, you wrote:
>     Gang,   My first question:   When I run self test the controller is
>perfectly aligned, but when I play the game the controller needs to be at
>about 35 degrees to fly straight.  I read in the manual last night that it
>has a self calibrating controller and by playing the game and moving it to
>the extremes of the screen it would calibrate itself - it didn't, and the
>manual doesn't elaborate any further.  I probably rushed it, being excited
>and all, but am I doing it right?   Cheers 
>MacMan    
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Matthew,

Yup! I was obviously a tad anxious in getting it that I rushed it. I took my
time last night and it worked a treat.

It's so cool to have one of these!!!!

MacMan

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> When I first turn the machine on and play the first game, I calibrate the
> controller by moving it to the 4 corners of the screen and holding that
> position for about a second and a half during the level selection screen.
> 
> Works every time.
> 
> 
> 	- Matt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 09:12 AM 3/2/00 +1100, you wrote:
> >     Gang,   My first question:   When I run self test the controller is
> >perfectly aligned, but when I play the game the controller needs to be at
> >about 35 degrees to fly straight.  I read in the manual last night that
> it
> >has a self calibrating controller and by playing the game and moving it
> to
> >the extremes of the screen it would calibrate itself - it didn't, and the
> >manual doesn't elaborate any further.  I probably rushed it, being
> excited
> >and all, but am I doing it right?   Cheers 
> >MacMan    
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Matthew Sell wrote:
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> When I first turn the machine on and play the first game, I calibrate the
> controller by moving it to the 4 corners of the screen and holding that
> position for about a second and a half during the level selection screen.
> 

Forgive my ignorance, but when you say "holding that position" do you
mean leaving the crosshairs in one of the four corners of the screen?

Thanks,
Noel
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>Matthew Sell wrote:
>> 
>> When I first turn the machine on and play the first game, I calibrate the
>> controller by moving it to the 4 corners of the screen and holding that
>> position for about a second and a half during the level selection screen.
>> 
>
>Forgive my ignorance, but when you say "holding that position" do you
>mean leaving the crosshairs in one of the four corners of the screen?
>
>Thanks,
>Noel

Heh! I was wondering the same thing myself. :)

Dan


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Does your machines hold the high scores?  The calibration should be
saved in the setup.  When mine would fall out of whack, in the beginning
of the game I would just quickly move the target to the 4 corners
without holding it.

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Star Wars is one of my most favorite games of all time. It was a real treat
to go to the mall (which was a rare event), where I would play an upright
Star Wars.

Ahhhh..... the good 'ole days......


	- Matt







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>to have one of these!!!!   MacMan   ---------- 

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Sorry about the lack of clarification. Yes, hold that position for about a
second or so, and then move the controller to another extreme.

Also, during the game at times where shooting is not required (Death Star
approach), I also give a quick move to each of the four corners again to
compensate for any drift that may have happened due to mechanical movement
or temperature changes.

It also exercises the wrist in preparation for another round.....   : )



	- Matt



At 09:10 PM 3/2/00 -0600, you wrote:
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>
>Matthew Sell wrote:
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>> When I first turn the machine on and play the first game, I calibrate the
>> controller by moving it to the 4 corners of the screen and holding that
>> position for about a second and a half during the level selection screen.
>> 
>
>Forgive my ignorance, but when you say "holding that position" do you
>mean leaving the crosshairs in one of the four corners of the screen?
>
>Thanks,
>Noel
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Mine does not save settings routinely. Sometimes it does, sometimes it
doesn't. I've got a couple of other Atari vectors ahead in the restoration
"queue"; I'll eventually get to Star Wars......



	- Matt




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I agree.  Same scenario.  That's why I was thrilled to get my cockpit.

I could use a yoke sticker if anyone has a spare.

Brendan Keith
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> 
> Star Wars is one of my most favorite games of all time. It was a real
> treat
> to go to the mall (which was a rare event), where I would play an upright
> Star Wars.
> 
> Ahhhh..... the good 'ole days......
> 
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> >We know the speech is there, it's documented and
> >there are wav files for MAME so someone had to
> >sample them.  Is it possible that a component failure

You mean they aren't emulating the speech synth yet?!?! Where's Frank?
I know, it's way down on the list isn't it...
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James,
    First I want to say EXCELLENT job on the roller! I may ne able to make
these in some quantity if the interest is there. Im almost done making one
from your prints. Do you have the number of the bearing you used? Or did you
just take it out of the track ball assembly
(ether way was there a # on it)

Ill get pictures of mine up soon. so far the only thing I changed was I made
the actual cage of aluminum rather then sheet metal.

-=Mark=--

James Marous wrote:

> Quite a few people have emailed me about this project, I've been working
> on a replacement roller controller for a dedicated Major Havoc.  The
> project is now done and I have pictures of the finished project and a
> pdf file of the prints available for everyone.  Unfortunately I don't
> have the resources to make these in quantity, but if someone else wants
> to try and make them, I will be more than happy to help.  I do have a
> couple of parts left over, one unbent flat for the base and about a foot
> of stock nylon for the roller insert.  Email me if you have any
> questions.  Here's the link:
> http://www.erinet.com/jamesm/tech/tech.htm
>
>                             James
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While we're on the subject -- a while back someone was talking about making
a run of replacement shafts for existing MH rollers.  Any progress on this
front ?

-Chris

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I haven't been keeping up with this topic like I should, but was curious as to whether James's repro design includes the backlighting for the roller.  I believe the original roller looked green only when the game was turned off.  When the game was on, the roller looked yellow due to the backlighting.

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On Fri, 03 Mar 2000 10:50:01   Mark E Davidson wrote:
>James,
>    First I want to say EXCELLENT job on the roller! I may ne able to make
>these in some quantity if the interest is there. Im almost done making one
>from your prints. Do you have the number of the bearing you used? Or did you
>just take it out of the track ball assembly
>(ether way was there a # on it)
>
>Ill get pictures of mine up soon. so far the only thing I changed was I made
>the actual cage of aluminum rather then sheet metal.
>
>-=Mark=--
>
>James Marous wrote:
>
>> Quite a few people have emailed me about this project, I've been working
>> on a replacement roller controller for a dedicated Major Havoc.  The
>> project is now done and I have pictures of the finished project and a
>> pdf file of the prints available for everyone.  Unfortunately I don't
>> have the resources to make these in quantity, but if someone else wants
>> to try and make them, I will be more than happy to help.  I do have a
>> couple of parts left over, one unbent flat for the base and about a foot
>> of stock nylon for the roller insert.  Email me if you have any
>> questions.  Here's the link:
>> http://www.erinet.com/jamesm/tech/tech.htm
>>
>>                             James
>> --
>> mailto:jamesm 
>> My Homepage! http://www.erinet.com/jamesm
>> --
>>
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I can make a run of rollers today! I have enough stock for 4 more. Are the shaft
dimensions in your drawing the same as an NOS roller as well?  If the are I can
get on making those as well. Please keep in mind gang, that I do not have
dedicated MH to look as so Im relying on the group's input

-=Mark=-

tom mcclintock wrote:

> Here's the information from James:
>
> "The dimensions on the bearings are 1/4" ID, 5/8" OD and 0.196 width.
> The McMaster-Carr part # for the ones I used is 57155K38."
>
> I just received an oil-impregnated cast nylon rod from McMaster-Carr
> (sounds so sexy...) and it should machine up into some nice rollers.
> Apparently the only color cast nylon came in was a sickly green, so it
> is probably the same manufacturer/product that Atari used. I was going
> to try and get some roller assemblies made up here in Dallas, but the
> machinist I was going to use is all full for the next few months.
> Anyone know of a good source, or Mark, do you want to make a run of the
> roller assemblies?
>
> tm
>
> Mark E Davidson wrote:
> >
> > James,
> >     First I want to say EXCELLENT job on the roller! I may ne able to make
> > these in some quantity if the interest is there. Im almost done making one
> > from your prints. Do you have the number of the bearing you used? Or did you
> > just take it out of the track ball assembly
> > (ether way was there a # on it)
> >
> > Ill get pictures of mine up soon. so far the only thing I changed was I made
> > the actual cage of aluminum rather then sheet metal.
> >
> > -=Mark=--
> >
> > James Marous wrote:
> >
> > > Quite a few people have emailed me about this project, I've been working
> > > on a replacement roller controller for a dedicated Major Havoc.  The
> > > project is now done and I have pictures of the finished project and a
> > > pdf file of the prints available for everyone.  Unfortunately I don't
> > > have the resources to make these in quantity, but if someone else wants
> > > to try and make them, I will be more than happy to help.  I do have a
> > > couple of parts left over, one unbent flat for the base and about a foot
> > > of stock nylon for the roller insert.  Email me if you have any
> > > questions.  Here's the link:
> > > http://www.erinet.com/jamesm/tech/tech.htm
> > >
> > >                             James
> > > --
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Here's the information from James:

"The dimensions on the bearings are 1/4" ID, 5/8" OD and 0.196 width. 
The McMaster-Carr part # for the ones I used is 57155K38."

I just received an oil-impregnated cast nylon rod from McMaster-Carr
(sounds so sexy...) and it should machine up into some nice rollers. 
Apparently the only color cast nylon came in was a sickly green, so it
is probably the same manufacturer/product that Atari used. I was going
to try and get some roller assemblies made up here in Dallas, but the
machinist I was going to use is all full for the next few months. 
Anyone know of a good source, or Mark, do you want to make a run of the
roller assemblies?


tm


Mark E Davidson wrote:
> 
> James,
>     First I want to say EXCELLENT job on the roller! I may ne able to make
> these in some quantity if the interest is there. Im almost done making one
> from your prints. Do you have the number of the bearing you used? Or did you
> just take it out of the track ball assembly
> (ether way was there a # on it)
> 
> Ill get pictures of mine up soon. so far the only thing I changed was I made
> the actual cage of aluminum rather then sheet metal.
> 
> -=Mark=--
> 
> James Marous wrote:
> 
> > Quite a few people have emailed me about this project, I've been working
> > on a replacement roller controller for a dedicated Major Havoc.  The
> > project is now done and I have pictures of the finished project and a
> > pdf file of the prints available for everyone.  Unfortunately I don't
> > have the resources to make these in quantity, but if someone else wants
> > to try and make them, I will be more than happy to help.  I do have a
> > couple of parts left over, one unbent flat for the base and about a foot
> > of stock nylon for the roller insert.  Email me if you have any
> > questions.  Here's the link:
> > http://www.erinet.com/jamesm/tech/tech.htm
> >
> >                             James
> > --
> > mailto:jamesm 
> > My Homepage! http://www.erinet.com/jamesm
> > --
> >
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Have a slight problem with my Black Widow that I hope somebody can help =
me with.  The video shakes vertically a bit and is most noticeable in =
the high score table.  In the demo mode and during gameplay its not =
noticeable - but when I go to enter initials in the high score table, =
there is a definite vertical shaking (more than the common vector =
flicker).

The monitor (WGK6100) has just been capped with a kit from Bob Roberts + =
the extra upgrade parts.  I have an LV2000, but its not installed yet.  =
Just don't know if its the monitor or the vector generation portion of =
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Thanks for the help.

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I remember a while back we were talking about CPU cores.

I found a free 6502 in VHDL at http://www.free-ip.com/6502/
as well as some other neat stuff, including a FP coprocessor at
http://www.opencores.org/

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Hi Guys,

Anybody know the specs for the Fuse (F900) in the HV cage, the manual calls
it a one amp at location F901 (even though the board says F900), but is it
slow blow or fast at 250V???


Thanx Justin



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I tried synthesizing this on a 20K gate Altera FPGA a while back and it
didn't fit.  However, I am using a stripped down version of MAX+PLUS, so
that may have played a part in it not fitting.  It tried partitioning the
design across two devices.

One minor drawback of this CPU is that it is not a cycle for cycle match
of the 6502.  Also, I don't think they had BCD math features working at
the time I goofed with it.  If I am not mistaken, most games need BCD
arithmetic.  This wouldn't be hard to implement though.

Still nice of them to post a core for free...I liked how they had it
running @ 185MHz in some simulations.  It'd be cool to play Gravitar like
that :P!

Ed



On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, jeff hendrix wrote:

> I remember a while back we were talking about CPU cores.
> 
> I found a free 6502 in VHDL at http://www.free-ip.com/6502/
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I just got this message . . .

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From: Dan Harkless <dan-bugtraq@DILVISH.SPEED.NET>
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Subject: MH also vulnerable to remote attack (was Re: nmh security update)

Amd spent a good 30 seconds trying to figure out how there was a remote
attack possible for Major Havoc !

Maybe the VECTOR: in the subject isn't such a bad idea. :-)

-Chris


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Of course, the upgrade isn't complete until you pull the square, boxy caps (#C603 & #C703).  Pulling these caps cleaned up some shakes on one of my vectors.  FWIW, you will notice that the parts are not listed in the revision 3 manual with no noticeable difference to the surrounding circuit - they just pulled them.

Jon

At 10:19 AM 3/3/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>Have a slight problem with my Black Widow that I hope somebody can help me with.  The video shakes vertically a bit and is most noticeable in the high score table.  In the demo mode and during gameplay its not noticeable - but when I go to enter initials in the high score table, there is a definite vertical shaking (more than the common vector flicker).
>  
>The monitor (WGK6100) has just been capped with a kit from Bob Roberts + the extra upgrade parts.  I have an LV2000, but its not installed yet.  Just don't know if its the monitor or the vector generation portion of the game board.
>  
>Thanks for the help.
>  
>Walt

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I can send you a couple used ones if you want to give me a new set when your done :)  This way you can go ahead and gear up to make them in quantities for all of the people who will want to replace theirs (I'm guessing this would pretty much be everyone?).  Btw, I would want one of those repro rollers too.  How much would you expect one to cost us?  What are the magic numbers for changes in rates for quantities (with your machine shop)?  I would guess this would be cheaper than each of us making one-off's.

Jon

At 12:05 PM 3/3/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>I can make a run of rollers today! I have enough stock for 4 more. Are the shaft
>dimensions in your drawing the same as an NOS roller as well?  If the are I can
>get on making those as well. Please keep in mind gang, that I do not have
>dedicated MH to look as so Im relying on the group's input
>
>-=Mark=-
>
>tom mcclintock wrote:
>
> > Here's the information from James:
> >
> > "The dimensions on the bearings are 1/4" ID, 5/8" OD and 0.196 width.
> > The McMaster-Carr part # for the ones I used is 57155K38."
> >
> > I just received an oil-impregnated cast nylon rod from McMaster-Carr
> > (sounds so sexy...) and it should machine up into some nice rollers.
> > Apparently the only color cast nylon came in was a sickly green, so it
> > is probably the same manufacturer/product that Atari used. I was going
> > to try and get some roller assemblies made up here in Dallas, but the
> > machinist I was going to use is all full for the next few months.
> > Anyone know of a good source, or Mark, do you want to make a run of the
> > roller assemblies?
> >
> > tm
> >
> > Mark E Davidson wrote:
> > >
> > > James,
> > >     First I want to say EXCELLENT job on the roller! I may ne able to make
> > > these in some quantity if the interest is there. Im almost done making one
> > > from your prints. Do you have the number of the bearing you used? Or did you
> > > just take it out of the track ball assembly
> > > (ether way was there a # on it)
> > >
> > > Ill get pictures of mine up soon. so far the only thing I changed was I made
> > > the actual cage of aluminum rather then sheet metal.
> > >
> > > -=Mark=--
> > >
> > > James Marous wrote:
> > >
> > > > Quite a few people have emailed me about this project, I've been working
> > > > on a replacement roller controller for a dedicated Major Havoc.  The
> > > > project is now done and I have pictures of the finished project and a
> > > > pdf file of the prints available for everyone.  Unfortunately I don't
> > > > have the resources to make these in quantity, but if someone else wants
> > > > to try and make them, I will be more than happy to help.  I do have a
> > > > couple of parts left over, one unbent flat for the base and about a foot
> > > > of stock nylon for the roller insert.  Email me if you have any
> > > > questions.  Here's the link:
> > > > http://www.erinet.com/jamesm/tech/tech.htm
> > > >
> > > >                             James
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I think one of my games experienced a DDOS attack last week.......

: )


	- Matt




At 01:40 PM 3/3/00 -0500, you wrote:
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>I just got this message . . .
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>Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:37:37 -0800
>From: Dan Harkless <dan-bugtraq@DILVISH.SPEED.NET>
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>Amd spent a good 30 seconds trying to figure out how there was a remote
>attack possible for Major Havoc !
>
>Maybe the VECTOR: in the subject isn't such a bad idea. :-)
>
>-Chris
>
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