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> Sounds like the voltage regulator in the monitor.
if the hv diode was shot it would not effect picture size.

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Well, it WILL cause the picture to enlarge if the high voltage goes down.  The
term for this in the TV repair business is "blooming".

The problem they are having with these old diodes cause them to have a large
voltage drop, which causes them to heat, which causes the voltage to drop even
more.  This causes the picture to enlarge.


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> if the hv diode was shot it would not effect picture size.
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   I hope this is considered appropriate for the vectorlist. Seems like
it is since this was the primary target audience of Chumblespuzz's
reproduction overlays.

   I ordered two Black Widow overlays from Roy Kaplan (Chumblespuzz). At
first they looked great but after about 6 months the colors bled
together and they looked awful. I had not applied them yet so I returned
them to Roy who was amazed and said he would replace them. It has been
several months and I haven't seen or heard anything from him. He does
not answer my e-mails. This is not an attempt to slander Roy. I'm just
wondering if anyone here has had the same problem? Does anyone know him?
or know what's going on with him?

Thanks
Jason Milsom

http://community.webtv.net/MILSOM44/MilsomsPuband

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He's been very quiet for the last three months.   I'm guessing he's busy
having a life .... he did seem to me as being a very honest and upfront
fellow.

I had also bought  BW and BZ repro CPOs from Roy.  The BW, was installed
and is doing fine.    It doesn't get played much and is on my machine in a
"cool
(temperature)" basement recroom.    Perhaps your overlays were near a window?
Perhaps your overlays were ruined by sun/heat?   Or maybe Roy did several
runs with his printer, did you get one of the first runs?

I hope if Roy does more repros in the future that he'll use thicker material
and perhaps
a better printer (there seems to be some debate as to the best quality way vs.

Steven Gregory / TomW / Fabfan repro standards etc).

My vectorlist list of repro CPOs would include,

     Omega Race (UR, Mini, Cockpit and cocktail)
     Gravitar (best quality material etc)
     BW (best quality material etc)
     BZ (best quality material etc)
     SD (better quality than Appolo)
     Quantum - what happened to that?
     AA (underlay for cocktail, and CPOs for ct and ur)
     SC (CPO)
     RO (CPO)
     SW CPO (not just controller sticker and marquee)
     Asteroids/dlx (underlays and especially ct CPOs!!!)

Sidart is another topic all together ...

SPW
kanata, on
canada

jason Milsom wrote:

>    I hope this is considered appropriate for the vectorlist. Seems like
> it is since this was the primary target audience of Chumblespuzz's
> reproduction overlays.
>
>    I ordered two Black Widow overlays from Roy Kaplan (Chumblespuzz). At
> first they looked great but after about 6 months the colors bled
> together and they looked awful. I had not applied them yet so I returned
> them to Roy who was amazed and said he would replace them. It has been
> several months and I haven't seen or heard anything from him. He does
> not answer my e-mails. This is not an attempt to slander Roy. I'm just
> wondering if anyone here has had the same problem? Does anyone know him?
> or know what's going on with him?
>
> Thanks
> Jason Milsom
>
> http://community.webtv.net/MILSOM44/MilsomsPuband
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He's been very quiet for the last three months.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm guessing
he's busy
<br>having a life .... he did seem to me as being a very honest and upfront
fellow.
<p>I&nbsp;had also bought&nbsp; BW and BZ repro CPOs from Roy.&nbsp; The
BW, was installed
<br>and is doing fine.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It doesn't get played much and
is on my machine in a "cool
<br>(temperature)" basement recroom.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps your overlays
were near a window?
<br>Perhaps your overlays were ruined by sun/heat?&nbsp;&nbsp; Or maybe
Roy did several
<br>runs with his printer, did you get one of the first runs?
<p>I hope if Roy does more repros in the future that he'll use thicker
material and perhaps
<br>a better printer (there seems to be some debate as to the best quality
way vs.
<br>Steven Gregory / TomW / Fabfan repro standards etc).
<p>My vectorlist list of repro CPOs would include,
<blockquote>Omega Race (UR, Mini, Cockpit and cocktail)
<br>Gravitar (best quality material etc)
<br>BW (best quality material etc)
<br>BZ (best quality material etc)
<br>SD (better quality than Appolo)
<br>Quantum - what happened to that?
<br>AA (underlay for cocktail, and CPOs for ct and ur)
<br>SC (CPO)
<br>RO (CPO)
<br>SW CPO (not just controller sticker and marquee)
<br>Asteroids/dlx (underlays and especially ct CPOs!!!)</blockquote>
Sidart is another topic all together ...
<p>SPW
<br>kanata, on
<br>canada
<p>jason Milsom wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;&nbsp; I hope this is considered appropriate
for the vectorlist. Seems like
<br>it is since this was the primary target audience of Chumblespuzz's
<br>reproduction overlays.
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp; I ordered two Black Widow overlays from Roy Kaplan (Chumblespuzz).
At
<br>first they looked great but after about 6 months the colors bled
<br>together and they looked awful. I had not applied them yet so I returned
<br>them to Roy who was amazed and said he would replace them. It has been
<br>several months and I haven't seen or heard anything from him. He does
<br>not answer my e-mails. This is not an attempt to slander Roy. I'm just
<br>wondering if anyone here has had the same problem? Does anyone know
him?
<br>or know what's going on with him?
<p>Thanks
<br>Jason Milsom
<p><a href="http://community.webtv.net/MILSOM44/MilsomsPuband">http://community.webtv.net/MILSOM44/MilsomsPuband</a>
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I too have been trying to reach him for some time. Hopefully he is OK.



On Fri, 01 Sep 2000 13:54:47 -0400, you wrote:

>He's been very quiet for the last three months.   I'm guessing he's busy
>having a life .... he did seem to me as being a very honest and upfront
>fellow.
>
>I had also bought  BW and BZ repro CPOs from Roy.  The BW, was installed
>and is doing fine.    It doesn't get played much and is on my machine in a
>"cool
>(temperature)" basement recroom.    Perhaps your overlays were near a window?
>Perhaps your overlays were ruined by sun/heat?   Or maybe Roy did several
>runs with his printer, did you get one of the first runs?
>
>I hope if Roy does more repros in the future that he'll use thicker material
>and perhaps
>a better printer (there seems to be some debate as to the best quality way vs.
>
>Steven Gregory / TomW / Fabfan repro standards etc).
>
>My vectorlist list of repro CPOs would include,
>
>     Omega Race (UR, Mini, Cockpit and cocktail)
>     Gravitar (best quality material etc)
>     BW (best quality material etc)
>     BZ (best quality material etc)
>     SD (better quality than Appolo)
>     Quantum - what happened to that?
>     AA (underlay for cocktail, and CPOs for ct and ur)
>     SC (CPO)
>     RO (CPO)
>     SW CPO (not just controller sticker and marquee)
>     Asteroids/dlx (underlays and especially ct CPOs!!!)
>
>Sidart is another topic all together ...
>
>SPW
>kanata, on
>canada
>
>jason Milsom wrote:
>
>>    I hope this is considered appropriate for the vectorlist. Seems like
>> it is since this was the primary target audience of Chumblespuzz's
>> reproduction overlays.
>>
>>    I ordered two Black Widow overlays from Roy Kaplan (Chumblespuzz). At
>> first they looked great but after about 6 months the colors bled
>> together and they looked awful. I had not applied them yet so I returned
>> them to Roy who was amazed and said he would replace them. It has been
>> several months and I haven't seen or heard anything from him. He does
>> not answer my e-mails. This is not an attempt to slander Roy. I'm just
>> wondering if anyone here has had the same problem? Does anyone know him?
>> or know what's going on with him?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jason Milsom
>>
>> http://community.webtv.net/MILSOM44/MilsomsPuband
>>
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Several months ago I was in e-mail communication with Roy about the BW
overlays.  At the time, I was also in need of one.  He said he had halted
production of them because they were cracking around the bolt holes after
installation.  He was doing several test runs to see what could be done to
fix the problem.  All of a sudden his
e-mails stopped and I have not received a response since.

I ended up buying an NOS Black Widow kit (thanks Kevin!), so I don't need
one now - but would like to know what happened to him also.


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>    I hope this is considered appropriate for the vectorlist. Seems like
> it is since this was the primary target audience of Chumblespuzz's
> reproduction overlays.
>
>    I ordered two Black Widow overlays from Roy Kaplan (Chumblespuzz). At
> first they looked great but after about 6 months the colors bled
> together and they looked awful. I had not applied them yet so I returned
> them to Roy who was amazed and said he would replace them. It has been
> several months and I haven't seen or heard anything from him. He does
> not answer my e-mails. This is not an attempt to slander Roy. I'm just
> wondering if anyone here has had the same problem? Does anyone know him?
> or know what's going on with him?
>
> Thanks
> Jason Milsom
>
> http://community.webtv.net/MILSOM44/MilsomsPuband
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Hey Jason and all;

I spoke with Roy a few days ago and he is alive and well.  Lately he has
been consumed with outside interests (mostly work) and has not been
working with his arcade or the repro art work.  I don't think he has been
checking his Chumblespuzz account either.  I'll give him a call later &
let him know to check his emails.

Steve


--- jason Milsom <MILSOM44@webtv.net> wrote:
>    I hope this is considered appropriate for the vectorlist. Seems like
> it is since this was the primary target audience of Chumblespuzz's
> reproduction overlays.
> 
>    I ordered two Black Widow overlays from Roy Kaplan (Chumblespuzz). At
> first they looked great but after about 6 months the colors bled
> together and they looked awful. I had not applied them yet so I returned
> them to Roy who was amazed and said he would replace them. It has been
> several months and I haven't seen or heard anything from him. He does
> not answer my e-mails. This is not an attempt to slander Roy. I'm just
> wondering if anyone here has had the same problem? Does anyone know him?
> or know what's going on with him?
> 
> Thanks
> Jason Milsom
> 
> http://community.webtv.net/MILSOM44/MilsomsPuband
> 
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Hello,

      I've got a WG6100 in a Tempest that works fine, but the screen has a 
slight "heatwave" to it that can distort colors and make white lines look 
like they have a "rainbow" in them. I've never seen this before, and I've 
allready tried degaussing the tube. Deflection and HV board have been 
Zannened, and the HV is fine. Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Michael Kelley
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        So, I visited my Ast Deluxe upright for the first time in several
months (long story) and I noticed that one corner of the sideart had started
to dry and peel off of the cabinet.

        I recall trying to glue this corner of the sideart before using
something like Elmer's glue, but obviously it's not working. I figure there
must be some other type of adhesive that is strong and durable that I can use
for this. Any suggestions?

                        Drew

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Your best bet is to use a very thin glue or contact cement.  Using anything
thick will cause lumpiness when the decal is applied and you will be able to
see a difference.  Another good option is spray adhesive, but it is
expensive ($7+ a can for Scotch 77) and you have to mask off the area to
avoid overspray.

I've used "Pliobond" before (found it at Ace) with fairly decent results.
Basically it is very thin contact cement.  I haven't had problems with this,
but the label indicates that it can dissolve some plastics, so test in an
inconspicuous area to be safe.  Also, you should *not* wait for the adhesive
to dry as the instructions indicated, again to reduce the bumpiness
underneath.  I'd also recommend using a small hard plastic roller to smooth
it out, then clamp.  In the end, you should end up with something that looks
as good as original.

Good luck,

Bret

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>         So, I visited my Ast Deluxe upright for the first time in several
> months (long story) and I noticed that one corner of the sideart
> had started
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>         I recall trying to glue this corner of the sideart before using
> something like Elmer's glue, but obviously it's not working. I
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Check the position of your yoke... If it has slipped it will produce that
effect...

Callan.

> Hello,
>
>       I've got a WG6100 in a Tempest that works fine, but the screen has a
> slight "heatwave" to it that can distort colors and make white lines look
> like they have a "rainbow" in them. I've never seen this before, and I've
> allready tried degaussing the tube. Deflection and HV board have been
> Zannened, and the HV is fine. Any help would be appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Michael Kelley
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Thanks to the crappy ROM sockets, a couple of my Asteroids Deluxe ROMS are
starting to crack.  They are sill operational, however I'd like to get some
replacements soon...

Two are cracking:

Position N/P2: 8105 036799-01E

Position J1: 8120 036432-02B

I'd do it myself but I don't have a burner yet...

Anyway, anyone know of someone who will burn me these two at a reasonable
price?

Thanks!

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I'm working on a Cosmic Chasm.  I put an NOS G-08 monitor in it, and the 
picture is upside down.  I tried reversing the Yolk wires, but I get no 
picture when I swap the wires.  Any suggestions?

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In a message dated 9/3/00 3:47:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, callanh@flash.net 
writes:

<< Check the position of your yoke... If it has slipped it will produce that
 effect...
  >>

Wow, Thanks Callan! I never thought it could be the yoke - I'll have to 
check. I looked very closely and noticed the heatwave is a slight variance in 
deflection. This goes from the top to bottom of the screen (on Tempest), so I 
was thinking checking/replacing  Q705 (3716) and Q706 (3792). The "heatwave" 
is actually the beam moving up a 1 pixel in different areas of the screen, so 
I was really thinking it might be in the Y amp...
Anybody have any other ideas??
I'm going to check Callan's yoke idea right now, and I'll report back the 
results.

Thanks,
MK

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Something similar --

When I face my Tempest East-West, the screen appears normal. Facing it
North-South, I get the rainbow effect. Yoke position or something else?


> << Check the position of your yoke... If it has slipped it will produce that
>  effect...
>   >>
> 
> Wow, Thanks Callan! I never thought it could be the yoke - I'll have to 
> check. I looked very closely and noticed the heatwave is a slight variance in 
> deflection. This goes from the top to bottom of the screen (on Tempest), so I 
> was thinking checking/replacing  Q705 (3716) and Q706 (3792). The "heatwave" 
> is actually the beam moving up a 1 pixel in different areas of the screen, so 
> I was really thinking it might be in the Y amp...
> Anybody have any other ideas??
> I'm going to check Callan's yoke idea right now, and I'll report back the 
> results.
> 
> Thanks,
> MK
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Loosen the yoke and rotate it 180 degrees.

Dan

On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 03:02:37 EDT, you wrote:

>I'm working on a Cosmic Chasm.  I put an NOS G-08 monitor in it, and the 
>picture is upside down.  I tried reversing the Yolk wires, but I get no 
>picture when I swap the wires.  Any suggestions?
>
>Scott
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Swapping the yoke wires *will* work.  You should use a meter to make sure
which wires you are swapping.  You usually can't just rotate the plug.
Don't rotate the yoke, as you will have to reconverge.

Jon

At 03:02 AM 9/4/00 EDT, you wrote:
>I'm working on a Cosmic Chasm.  I put an NOS G-08 monitor in it, and the 
>picture is upside down.  I tried reversing the Yolk wires, but I get no 
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>Scott
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Here is a quick update on the Major Havoc repro roller project. Right
before my sons surgery, I found enough time to finish the machining work
on all the repro rollers, Whets left is to install the encoder PC boards
and encoder wheels and test them all (where did I put those boards?). At
that point Ill come up with a clever way to distribute them to the
masses. Figure mid September to wrap this up as Im in the middle of a
big automation side job that will be done this week. after that Ill be
in San Jose doing the installation. After its all said and done im free
to play on these side projects and can get this whole first run behind
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The yoke is to blame.  Sometimes, degaussing the screen will fix this.
Otherwise, you'll have to reconverge in the North-South position.

Jon

At 11:27 AM 9/4/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Something similar --
>
>When I face my Tempest East-West, the screen appears normal. Facing it
>North-South, I get the rainbow effect. Yoke position or something else?
>
>
>> << Check the position of your yoke... If it has slipped it will produce
that
>>  effect...
>>   >>
>> 
>> Wow, Thanks Callan! I never thought it could be the yoke - I'll have to 
>> check. I looked very closely and noticed the heatwave is a slight
variance in 
>> deflection. This goes from the top to bottom of the screen (on Tempest),
so I 
>> was thinking checking/replacing  Q705 (3716) and Q706 (3792). The
"heatwave" 
>> is actually the beam moving up a 1 pixel in different areas of the
screen, so 
>> I was really thinking it might be in the Y amp...
>> Anybody have any other ideas??
>> I'm going to check Callan's yoke idea right now, and I'll report back the 
>> results.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> MK
>> 
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I know him so Ill speak in his behalf to the best of my abilities. Roy has 6
overlays that I bought off of him last year that he needed back to go through
the laminator again, Seems he was having problems with the over coat lamination
he was using so se wanted to re-roll them. I also have him my Space Duel to
Major Havoc overlay to be reproduced. I too had not heard from him until
recently. Here is what he said

Hi Mark!

Things have been crazy for me lately. I've pretty much put the game thing on
hold. My last website update was in January, I haven't fixed any new games
in months, and I haven't even been online checking emails.

I'm working for a pre-IPO company and it's taking all my time. My daughters
ask me each morning if I will be home that evening in time to kiss them good
night. Most nights I'm not.

In any case, I'm trying to get back to the hobby. My time is tight but I
have a lot of promises to keep and I don't want people being any more pissed
off at me.

So, I still have your CPOs, and I have run them back through the laminator.
There's not guarantee that they'll be better, but I hope so.

I haven't done anything with the SD/MH CPO because I am not happy with the
quality of the CPOs my printer has made lately. He just found a new laminate
(similar to the one you showed me at the last auction) and I will be
installing a test CPO later this week. If it works, great, if not, I'm out
of the CPO business.

However, I did promise you an SD/MH CPO. If I can't produce the CPO myself,
I would be happy to do the art and send it to you (in Corel format) to print
at your printer. I'll let you know how things go in the next few days.

Anyway, I happy to hear that your Turbo underlay worked out. Have you
embarked on any other projects since?

Also, I heard your baby was in for an operation. I hope all worked out ok.

ttys,
-roy-

SO the bottom line is that Roy is working on it and if it is any testimonial,
My Black Widow overlay has been on for about a year, and still looks great!

Also, Thanks to all who wished my son well before his heart surgery, Everything
went great (although its still upsetting to the parents) and he is back to
"Dad, I want to play the TREE GAME"  which to a 3 year old means Crystal
Castles.... Or do I have to post that to the Raster list list :-)

-=Mark=-

jason Milsom wrote:

>    I hope this is considered appropriate for the vectorlist. Seems like
> it is since this was the primary target audience of Chumblespuzz's
> reproduction overlays.
>
>    I ordered two Black Widow overlays from Roy Kaplan (Chumblespuzz). At
> first they looked great but after about 6 months the colors bled
> together and they looked awful. I had not applied them yet so I returned
> them to Roy who was amazed and said he would replace them. It has been
> several months and I haven't seen or heard anything from him. He does
> not answer my e-mails. This is not an attempt to slander Roy. I'm just
> wondering if anyone here has had the same problem? Does anyone know him?
> or know what's going on with him?
>
> Thanks
> Jason Milsom
>
> http://community.webtv.net/MILSOM44/MilsomsPuband
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Josh McCormick wrote:

> Something similar --
> 
> When I face my Tempest East-West, the screen appears normal. Facing it
> North-South, I get the rainbow effect. Yoke position or something else?

Your problem is different than Mike's.  All you need to do is degauss the
tube....this can be done by turining it on....letting it sit on for a
little while, then shutting it off for a while.  The degaussing coil that
is apart of the monitor will cure it!  You do not need to go buy a
degaussing coil unless there is something wrong with your's (or the
degaussing circuit on the monitor).


I am assuming you are seeing "blotches" of different color mixed in with
color you expect....


> 
> 
> > << Check the position of your yoke... If it has slipped it will produce that
> >  effect...
> >   >>
> > 
> > Wow, Thanks Callan! I never thought it could be the yoke - I'll have to 
> > check. I looked very closely and noticed the heatwave is a slight variance in 
> > deflection. This goes from the top to bottom of the screen (on Tempest), so I 
> > was thinking checking/replacing  Q705 (3716) and Q706 (3792). The "heatwave" 
> > is actually the beam moving up a 1 pixel in different areas of the screen, so 
> > I was really thinking it might be in the Y amp...
> > Anybody have any other ideas??
> > I'm going to check Callan's yoke idea right now, and I'll report back the 
> > results.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > MK
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Fantastic.  I'm in for sure.

A>

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Subject: VECTOR: MH Repro roller project


Here is a quick update on the Major Havoc repro roller project. Right
before my sons surgery, I found enough time to finish the machining work
on all the repro rollers, Whets left is to install the encoder PC boards
and encoder wheels and test them all (where did I put those boards?). At
that point Ill come up with a clever way to distribute them to the
masses. Figure mid September to wrap this up as Im in the middle of a
big automation side job that will be done this week. after that Ill be
in San Jose doing the installation. After its all said and done im free
to play on these side projects and can get this whole first run behind
me.

-=Mark=-


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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Fantastic.&nbsp; I'm in for sure.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Mark E Davidson [<A HREF="mailto:Burbs1@concentric.net">mailto:Burbs1@concentric.net</A>]</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Here is a quick update on the Major Havoc repro roller project. Right</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>before my sons surgery, I found enough time to finish the machining work</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>to play on these side projects and can get this whole first run behind</FONT>
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In my own defense I've rotated the yoke on at least 10 games but they were raster and
maybe less sensitive to convergence settings.

Dan

On Mon, 04 Sep 2000 14:01:07 -0400, you wrote:

>Swapping the yoke wires *will* work.  You should use a meter to make sure
>which wires you are swapping.  You usually can't just rotate the plug.
>Don't rotate the yoke, as you will have to reconverge.
>
>Jon
>
>At 03:02 AM 9/4/00 EDT, you wrote:
>>I'm working on a Cosmic Chasm.  I put an NOS G-08 monitor in it, and the 
>>picture is upside down.  I tried reversing the Yolk wires, but I get no 
>>picture when I swap the wires.  Any suggestions?
>>
>>Scott
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Ok....

On my Pac Man cocktail, everything works, but both the top of the screen
and the bottom of the screen are wavy and twisted looking. What does
this mean and how to fix ????? Also, after scouring the internet looking
for replacement underglass and control panel overlays, it seen that the
cheapest is $125 + 10 shipping. Has anyone else found a cheaper place to
pick these up ????

Lastly, on my Asteroids cocktail,  the only thing that i have noticed is
that the 3rd prong "ground" has been cut off. I have noticed that the
images on the screen are fluctuating in brightness and also that the
lettering and scores are not completely perfect. It is showing a very
slight "double vision" look to it. Looking for a solution to that.
Cannot find anywhere on the net, underglass replacement underlays for
the cocktial.....

Any help to the above would be greatly appreciated... Thanks

Robb

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For your AD:

 - Install a cap kit on the monitor boards and replace all the deflection
transistors (4 large ones mounted to the chassis, 4 small ones on the
deflection amp w/ heat sinks).

 - Check all solder joints on both the HV & deflection amp boards,
ESPECIALLY the joints around the pins for the various connectors.  For any
joint that is suspect, remove the old solder, clean, and flow in fresh
solder.  I'd do this on the connector pin solder joints, regardless.

 - Install a get well kit for your power supply (my CT has an A/R 3 in it).
Test the voltages when complete.

 - Replace the power cord.  It is just plain dumb that people cut off the
ground -- it was put there for a reason.

Of the items listed above, most are WISE preventative MAINTENANCE to an XY
game (I'm not preaching -- just emphasizing -- I've learned the hard
way...).  I'd guess that your problem is related to your power supply board
putting out incorrect/fluctuating voltages.

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>
> Ok....
>
> On my Pac Man cocktail, everything works, but both the top of the screen
> and the bottom of the screen are wavy and twisted looking. What does
> this mean and how to fix ????? Also, after scouring the internet looking
> for replacement underglass and control panel overlays, it seen that the
> cheapest is $125 + 10 shipping. Has anyone else found a cheaper place to
> pick these up ????
>
> Lastly, on my Asteroids cocktail,  the only thing that i have noticed is
> that the 3rd prong "ground" has been cut off. I have noticed that the
> images on the screen are fluctuating in brightness and also that the
> lettering and scores are not completely perfect. It is showing a very
> slight "double vision" look to it. Looking for a solution to that.
> Cannot find anywhere on the net, underglass replacement underlays for
> the cocktial.....
>
> Any help to the above would be greatly appreciated... Thanks
>
> Robb
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>On my Pac Man cocktail, everything works, but both the top of the screen
>and the bottom of the screen are wavy and twisted looking. What does
>this mean and how to fix ?????

        Sounds like you need a capkit on the pac monitor too. Those are classic
symptoms of out-of-tolerance caps.

        I never found a good cheap place to get the underglass and CPO
overlays, myself. Just don't get gouged buying cocktail glass in the mail -
you can get it cheaper locally, without the shipping.

ObVector - I just went to visit my Tempest after a 6 month absence, and played
it for a few hours. I'm once again amazed at how great Roy's tempest spinner
retrofit works. With that and my newly installed repro CPO, it's like the
machine just rolled off the assembly line...

                        Drew



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Hi All,

Well, what can I say but sorry.

I've spent all weekend privately emailing all parties I've promised
something to and I hope all issues have been addressed.

I focused almost soley on producing CPOs for esoteric vector games,
primarily based on individual needs for fellow vector list members. I did
this as a way of trying to contribute back to the community that has help me
out on so many occasions in the past.

I spent a lot of time, effort and money trying to produce these CPOs. The
problems I've had with my printer have cost me a lot to try to resolve and
have been really frustrating. The thing that pisses me off is that it's not
because of my lack of ability to do the art - the problems have been out my
my contol.

In any case, I tried expanding my hobby into CPO production and it didn't
work out. I hope didn't piss too many people off with the way things have
gone. I've done my best, but in the end this is just a hobby for me. As such
it has taken a back seat to more pressing life issues.

If anyone has any open, unaddressed business with me, please email me at
chumblespuz . If anyone with better production capabilities is
interested in my artwork, please email me as well.

Thanks for your understanding,
-roy-



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> I know him so Ill speak in his behalf to the best of my abilities. Roy has
6
> overlays that I bought off of him last year that he needed back to go
through
> the laminator again, Seems he was having problems with the over coat
lamination
> he was using so se wanted to re-roll them. I also have him my Space Duel
to
> Major Havoc overlay to be reproduced. I too had not heard from him until
> recently. Here is what he said
>
> Hi Mark!
>
> Things have been crazy for me lately. I've pretty much put the game thing
on
> hold. My last website update was in January, I haven't fixed any new games
> in months, and I haven't even been online checking emails.
>
> I'm working for a pre-IPO company and it's taking all my time. My
daughters
> ask me each morning if I will be home that evening in time to kiss them
good
> night. Most nights I'm not.
>
> In any case, I'm trying to get back to the hobby. My time is tight but I
> have a lot of promises to keep and I don't want people being any more
pissed
> off at me.
>
> So, I still have your CPOs, and I have run them back through the
laminator.
> There's not guarantee that they'll be better, but I hope so.
>
> I haven't done anything with the SD/MH CPO because I am not happy with the
> quality of the CPOs my printer has made lately. He just found a new
laminate
> (similar to the one you showed me at the last auction) and I will be
> installing a test CPO later this week. If it works, great, if not, I'm out
> of the CPO business.
>
> However, I did promise you an SD/MH CPO. If I can't produce the CPO
myself,
> I would be happy to do the art and send it to you (in Corel format) to
print
> at your printer. I'll let you know how things go in the next few days.
>
> Anyway, I happy to hear that your Turbo underlay worked out. Have you
> embarked on any other projects since?
>
> Also, I heard your baby was in for an operation. I hope all worked out ok.
>
> ttys,
> -roy-
>
> SO the bottom line is that Roy is working on it and if it is any
testimonial,
> My Black Widow overlay has been on for about a year, and still looks
great!
>
> Also, Thanks to all who wished my son well before his heart surgery,
Everything
> went great (although its still upsetting to the parents) and he is back to
> "Dad, I want to play the TREE GAME"  which to a 3 year old means Crystal
> Castles.... Or do I have to post that to the Raster list list :-)
>
> -=Mark=-
>
> jason Milsom wrote:
>
> >    I hope this is considered appropriate for the vectorlist. Seems like
> > it is since this was the primary target audience of Chumblespuzz's
> > reproduction overlays.
> >
> >    I ordered two Black Widow overlays from Roy Kaplan (Chumblespuzz). At
> > first they looked great but after about 6 months the colors bled
> > together and they looked awful. I had not applied them yet so I returned
> > them to Roy who was amazed and said he would replace them. It has been
> > several months and I haven't seen or heard anything from him. He does
> > not answer my e-mails. This is not an attempt to slander Roy. I'm just
> > wondering if anyone here has had the same problem? Does anyone know him?
> > or know what's going on with him?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jason Milsom
> >
> > http://community.webtv.net/MILSOM44/MilsomsPuband
> >
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I'm in the process of bringing my Asteroids Deluxe CT out of retirement, and
have some monitor board issues to work through.

First off, I noticed that on this amp board, there is a cement resistor in
position R100, where on my UR there is no such beast (position yes, resistor
no).  Most of the markings have worn off, but it looks like it is 3.? ohms,
testing (in circuit) reads ~5.4 ohms.  I can't find a reference to either
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if anyone knows anything about R100 and its purpose in life.

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> I'm working on a Cosmic Chasm.  I put an NOS G-08 monitor in it, and the
> picture is upside down.  I tried reversing the Yolk wires, but I get no
> picture when I swap the wires.  Any suggestions?

There are 2 pairs of wires, A&B and A'&B'; if the pattern is ABA'B' then in
order to flip the screen you need to make the pattern BAB'A'.  That's right,
you need to swap each wire within BOTH pairs.

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Roy,

>Well, what can I say but sorry.

Nothing to apologize for, Roy. You're the best!!

You've gone way beyond the call of duty for many of us here (myself 
included), and I will never be able to properly thank you enough for all of 
your efforts.

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Nice simple question this.. Is the monitor in an Asteroids cabaret 15"
or 13" ? 
I was assuming it was 15" like the cocktails and the asreroids deluxe
and battlezone cabarets but i just noticed that the missilecommand
cabaret that looks like the same box as the asteroids one uses a 13"
monitor.

Also I'm looking for any asteroids cabaret parts. I've got a cp and
marquee - need the rest.
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Hello Folks,

	I was going through the test modes adjusting MH pots to the screen
patterns as outline in the MH docs.  There were screens with colour patterns
and cross-hatches etc and I followed the instructions for making
adjustments. 

	At one point there is a screen with a red box around the screen and
then a white box just within and then another box (looked green although
manual said it should be white) that starts outside and shrinks smoothly in
the middle, till it disappears and then starts again.  Anyhow I saw all
that, made adjustments and started to play the game.  While I was playing
(about 15mins), all of a sudden the picture expanded on the screen such that
objects were way off the screen that I would normally see (almost like I
zoomed in on a part of the game - or as if I had adjusted the x & y size
pots.  Anyhow, it was like this and I rebooted back to test mode to
re-adjust and could not shrink the screen back to the correct size (it was
still way to stretched).  I also lost the red border around the tests
screens as well and the nice smooth shrinking box no longer is smooth.. it
skips sizes and just disappears and appears as a smaller box like it is in
jerky movement mode.

	Anyhow, I am assuming that my pot(s) blew or something is fishy with
them.  These are the ones I was adjusting:


XBIP: R80 Pot - 200?
YBIP: R81 Pot - 200?

XSIZE: R34 Pot - 10K
YSIZE: R48 Pot - 10K

XCENT: R39 Pot - 10K
YCENT: R55 Pot - 10K

XLIN: R38 Pot - 2K
YLIN: R50 Pot - 2K

	Anyway, can anyone confirm that I need new pots (perhaps the
x-size/y-size ones) or does anyone know if it could be something else.  Any
help is appreciated.

Thanks
/\A\n\d\y/


Andrew Evrovski
Development Director
Cyberplex Atlantic, Halifax, NS
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hello Folks,</FONT>
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>I was =
going through the test modes adjusting MH pots to the screen patterns =
as outline in the MH docs.&nbsp; There were screens with colour =
patterns and cross-hatches etc and I followed the instructions for =
making adjustments. </FONT></P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>At one =
point there is a screen with a red box around the screen and then a =
white box just within and then another box (looked green although =
manual said it should be white) that starts outside and shrinks =
smoothly in the middle, till it disappears and then starts again.&nbsp; =
Anyhow I saw all that, made adjustments and started to play the =
game.&nbsp; While I was playing (about 15mins), all of a sudden the =
picture expanded on the screen such that objects were way off the =
screen that I would normally see (almost like I zoomed in on a part of =
the game - or as if I had adjusted the x &amp; y size pots.&nbsp; =
Anyhow, it was like this and I rebooted back to test mode to re-adjust =
and could not shrink the screen back to the correct size (it was still =
way to stretched).&nbsp; I also lost the red border around the tests =
screens as well and the nice smooth shrinking box no longer is smooth.. =
it skips sizes and just disappears and appears as a smaller box like it =
is in jerky movement mode.</FONT></P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>Anyhow, I =
am assuming that my pot(s) blew or something is fishy with them.&nbsp; =
These are the ones I was adjusting:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>XBIP: R80 Pot - 200?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>YBIP: R81 Pot - 200?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>XSIZE: R34 Pot - 10K</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>YSIZE: R48 Pot - 10K</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>XCENT: R39 Pot - 10K</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>YCENT: R55 Pot - 10K</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>XLIN: R38 Pot - 2K</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>YLIN: R50 Pot - 2K</FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>Anyway, =
can anyone confirm that I need new pots (perhaps the x-size/y-size =
ones) or does anyone know if it could be something else.&nbsp; Any help =
is appreciated.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>/\A\n\d\y/</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andrew Evrovski</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Development Director</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cyberplex Atlantic, Halifax, NS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(TSE:CX)</FONT>
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This could be blooming caused by low high voltage.  What kind of monitor are you using?  If its a WG6100, you should be able to check for 180vdc on pin 5 of the HV cage.  If you are using an Amplifone, you should be able to check one of the secondary windings on the HV transformer (it isn't red, is it?).  Btw, if anyone cares, you can also set the HV on a G05 by either using the 90V (B+? - I don't have my schems on me) and the 400V (focus).

This could also be a problem with the HV diode.  This is a very common problem with G05's.

Jon

At 09:44 AM 9/5/2000 -0400, you wrote:

>Hello Folks, 
>
>         I was going through the test modes adjusting MH pots to the screen patterns as outline in the MH docs.  There were screens with colour patterns and cross-hatches etc and I followed the instructions for making adjustments. 
>
>         At one point there is a screen with a red box around the screen and then a white box just within and then another box (looked green although manual said it should be white) that starts outside and shrinks smoothly in the middle, till it disappears and then starts again.  Anyhow I saw all that, made adjustments and started to play the game.  While I was playing (about 15mins), all of a sudden the picture expanded on the screen such that objects were way off the screen that I would normally see (almost like I zoomed in on a part of the game - or as if I had adjusted the x & y size pots.  Anyhow, it was like this and I rebooted back to test mode to re-adjust and could not shrink the screen back to the correct size (it was still way to stretched).  I also lost the red border around the tests screens as well and the nice smooth shrinking box no longer is smooth.. it skips sizes and just disappears and appears as a smaller box like it is in jerky movement mode.
>
>         Anyhow, I am assuming that my pot(s) blew or something is fishy with them.  These are the ones I was adjusting: 
>
>XBIP: R80 Pot - 200? 
>YBIP: R81 Pot - 200? 
>
>XSIZE: R34 Pot - 10K 
>YSIZE: R48 Pot - 10K 
>
>XCENT: R39 Pot - 10K 
>YCENT: R55 Pot - 10K 
>
>XLIN: R38 Pot - 2K 
>YLIN: R50 Pot - 2K 
>
>         Anyway, can anyone confirm that I need new pots (perhaps the x-size/y-size ones) or does anyone know if it could be something else.  Any help is appreciated.
>
>Thanks 
>/\A\n\d\y/ 
>
>Andrew Evrovski 
>Development Director 
>Cyberplex Atlantic, Halifax, NS 
>(TSE:CX) 

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Well, I think they are just as sensitive to convergence (the technology is the same).  It could be that the wedges are in a good spot.  That is what they are there for, after all - to keep the yoke in place.

Setting convergence is not difficult.  There is a sweet spot where the lines all match up.  You still need to have a mirror or something in front of you.  Kind of a pain considering that you could simply swap the wires on the yoke plug.  Even rotating the yoke requires some playing with it to make sure the lines are straight.

Jon

At 11:26 PM 9/4/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>In my own defense I've rotated the yoke on at least 10 games but they were raster and
>maybe less sensitive to convergence settings.
>
>Dan
>
>On Mon, 04 Sep 2000 14:01:07 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >Swapping the yoke wires *will* work.  You should use a meter to make sure
> >which wires you are swapping.  You usually can't just rotate the plug.
> >Don't rotate the yoke, as you will have to reconverge.
> >
> >Jon
> >
> >At 03:02 AM 9/4/00 EDT, you wrote:
> >>I'm working on a Cosmic Chasm.  I put an NOS G-08 monitor in it, and the 
> >>picture is upside down.  I tried reversing the Yolk wires, but I get no 
> >>picture when I swap the wires.  Any suggestions?
> >>
> >>Scott
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Hi all.
	Back from a week of vacation, and have some tid-bits.

	As mentioned earlier, I have an omega race mini project in the
works.  Well, Paul (a vector lurker) dropped by last monday with a working
board set and monitor for me.  We proceeded with the install.  On boot, the
demo came up, but the game play was screwy.  The play board came up, minus
the midle box.  As soon as the ship was released, the screen went nuts with
vectors scrolling around.  We put it in diagnostics and it pointed to a bad
ram at S3 or S2.  Replaced the 2114 at S3 and she fired up fine.  Woo Hoo!.
The sound then went screwy.  It would play for a bit, then freeze.  Sounded
like the cpu was getting hung.  We swapped out the cpu and the 2 2114 ram
chips on it and the sound was fine.  I had to blow out the spinner with some
compressed air, cause it was acting weird.  It's fine now!

Then, the very next day, I was coming back from a trip to the zoo, and in my
subdivision, I spotted a couple of kids having a small garage sale down the
road (on a tuesday????).  from 4 houses away, I spotted a small black box
with a vertical grey screen,  Got home, dropped off the kids and wife and
walked back.  Yup, Vectrex.  3 games (hyperchase, scramble and another,
plus, of course, minestorm).  Is it working?  Kids said yes.  How much?
Kids said $17.50.  I gave them $20, and they were right, it does work!

A good vector week.

Mike
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I'd also suggest that you check the brightness and contrast pots real good..  I've seen them act up a lot.  Its usually a case of a bad solder joint.

Jon

At 06:31 PM 9/4/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>For your AD:
>
>  - Install a cap kit on the monitor boards and replace all the deflection
>transistors (4 large ones mounted to the chassis, 4 small ones on the
>deflection amp w/ heat sinks).
>
>  - Check all solder joints on both the HV & deflection amp boards,
>ESPECIALLY the joints around the pins for the various connectors.  For any
>joint that is suspect, remove the old solder, clean, and flow in fresh
>solder.  I'd do this on the connector pin solder joints, regardless.
>
>  - Install a get well kit for your power supply (my CT has an A/R 3 in it).
>Test the voltages when complete.
>
>  - Replace the power cord.  It is just plain dumb that people cut off the
>ground -- it was put there for a reason.
>
>Of the items listed above, most are WISE preventative MAINTENANCE to an XY
>game (I'm not preaching -- just emphasizing -- I've learned the hard
>way...).  I'd guess that your problem is related to your power supply board
>putting out incorrect/fluctuating voltages.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-vectorlist 
> > [mailto:owner-vectorlist ]On Behalf Of Robb Allen
> > Sent: Monday, September 4, 2000 6:09 PM
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> >
> >
> > Ok....
> >
> > On my Pac Man cocktail, everything works, but both the top of the screen
> > and the bottom of the screen are wavy and twisted looking. What does
> > this mean and how to fix ????? Also, after scouring the internet looking
> > for replacement underglass and control panel overlays, it seen that the
> > cheapest is $125 + 10 shipping. Has anyone else found a cheaper place to
> > pick these up ????
> >
> > Lastly, on my Asteroids cocktail,  the only thing that i have noticed is
> > that the 3rd prong "ground" has been cut off. I have noticed that the
> > images on the screen are fluctuating in brightness and also that the
> > lettering and scores are not completely perfect. It is showing a very
> > slight "double vision" look to it. Looking for a solution to that.
> > Cannot find anywhere on the net, underglass replacement underlays for
> > the cocktial.....
> >
> > Any help to the above would be greatly appreciated... Thanks
> >
> > Robb
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Thanks for the info.  I have got the WG 6100 and I just used Bob Roberts
basic kit and additional kit on it to get it up and running again.  If I
check the 180vdc pin5 on the HV cage and it isn't 180vdc, then what do I
need to do?  Should I be adjusting the HV pot?  Do I use that 180 vdc to
guage how much to adjust?  Or do I adjust the HV trip pot? My WG has the
newer HV board (P316 - HV), P327 for Defl, and P328? for Neck.

BTW, I am not really sure as to where Pin 5 is on the HV cage.  Ar you
referring to the red connector going into the HV unit?

Thanks


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This could be blooming caused by low high voltage.  What kind of monitor are
you using?  If its a WG6100, you should be able to check for 180vdc on pin 5
of the HV cage.  If you are using an Amplifone, you should be able to check
one of the secondary windings on the HV transformer (it isn't red, is it?).
Btw, if anyone cares, you can also set the HV on a G05 by either using the
90V (B+? - I don't have my schems on me) and the 400V (focus).

This could also be a problem with the HV diode.  This is a very common
problem with G05's.

Jon

At 09:44 AM 9/5/2000 -0400, you wrote:

>Hello Folks, 
>
>         I was going through the test modes adjusting MH pots to the screen
patterns as outline in the MH docs.  There were screens with colour patterns
and cross-hatches etc and I followed the instructions for making
adjustments. 
>
>         At one point there is a screen with a red box around the screen
and then a white box just within and then another box (looked green although
manual said it should be white) that starts outside and shrinks smoothly in
the middle, till it disappears and then starts again.  Anyhow I saw all
that, made adjustments and started to play the game.  While I was playing
(about 15mins), all of a sudden the picture expanded on the screen such that
objects were way off the screen that I would normally see (almost like I
zoomed in on a part of the game - or as if I had adjusted the x & y size
pots.  Anyhow, it was like this and I rebooted back to test mode to
re-adjust and could not shrink the screen back to the correct size (it was
still way to stretched).  I also lost the red border around the tests
screens as well and the nice smooth shrinking box no longer is smooth.. it
skips sizes and just disappears and appears as a smaller box like it is in
jerky movement mode.
>
>         Anyhow, I am assuming that my pot(s) blew or something is fishy
with them.  These are the ones I was adjusting: 
>
>XBIP: R80 Pot - 200? 
>YBIP: R81 Pot - 200? 
>
>XSIZE: R34 Pot - 10K 
>YSIZE: R48 Pot - 10K 
>
>XCENT: R39 Pot - 10K 
>YCENT: R55 Pot - 10K 
>
>XLIN: R38 Pot - 2K 
>YLIN: R50 Pot - 2K 
>
>         Anyway, can anyone confirm that I need new pots (perhaps the
x-size/y-size ones) or does anyone know if it could be something else.  Any
help is appreciated.
>
>Thanks 
>/\A\n\d\y/ 
>
>Andrew Evrovski 
>Development Director 
>Cyberplex Atlantic, Halifax, NS 
>(TSE:CX) 

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks for the info.&nbsp; I have got the WG 6100 and =
I just used Bob Roberts basic kit and additional kit on it to get it up =
and running again.&nbsp; If I check the 180vdc pin5 on the HV cage and =
it isn't 180vdc, then what do I need to do?&nbsp; Should I be adjusting =
the HV pot?&nbsp; Do I use that 180 vdc to guage how much to =
adjust?&nbsp; Or do I adjust the HV trip pot? My WG has the newer HV =
board (P316 - HV), P327 for Defl, and P328? for Neck.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>BTW, I am not really sure as to where Pin 5 is on the =
HV cage.&nbsp; Ar you referring to the red connector going into the HV =
unit?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks</FONT>
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<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Jon Raiford [<A =
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]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: September 5, 2000 11:09</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This could be blooming caused by low high =
voltage.&nbsp; What kind of monitor are you using?&nbsp; If its a =
WG6100, you should be able to check for 180vdc on pin 5 of the HV =
cage.&nbsp; If you are using an Amplifone, you should be able to check =
one of the secondary windings on the HV transformer (it isn't red, is =
it?).&nbsp; Btw, if anyone cares, you can also set the HV on a G05 by =
either using the 90V (B+? - I don't have my schems on me) and the 400V =
(focus).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This could also be a problem with the HV diode.&nbsp; =
This is a very common problem with G05's.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Jon</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>At 09:44 AM 9/5/2000 -0400, you wrote:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Hello Folks, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
I was going through the test modes adjusting MH pots to the screen =
patterns as outline in the MH docs.&nbsp; There were screens with =
colour patterns and cross-hatches etc and I followed the instructions =
for making adjustments. </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
At one point there is a screen with a red box around the screen and =
then a white box just within and then another box (looked green =
although manual said it should be white) that starts outside and =
shrinks smoothly in the middle, till it disappears and then starts =
again.&nbsp; Anyhow I saw all that, made adjustments and started to =
play the game.&nbsp; While I was playing (about 15mins), all of a =
sudden the picture expanded on the screen such that objects were way =
off the screen that I would normally see (almost like I zoomed in on a =
part of the game - or as if I had adjusted the x &amp; y size =
pots.&nbsp; Anyhow, it was like this and I rebooted back to test mode =
to re-adjust and could not shrink the screen back to the correct size =
(it was still way to stretched).&nbsp; I also lost the red border =
around the tests screens as well and the nice smooth shrinking box no =
longer is smooth.. it skips sizes and just disappears and appears as a =
smaller box like it is in jerky movement mode.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Anyhow, I am assuming that my pot(s) blew or something is fishy with =
them.&nbsp; These are the ones I was adjusting: </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;XBIP: R80 Pot - 200? </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;YBIP: R81 Pot - 200? </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;XSIZE: R34 Pot - 10K </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;XCENT: R39 Pot - 10K </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;YCENT: R55 Pot - 10K </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;XLIN: R38 Pot - 2K </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;YLIN: R50 Pot - 2K </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Anyway, can anyone confirm that I need new pots (perhaps the =
x-size/y-size ones) or does anyone know if it could be something =
else.&nbsp; Any help is appreciated.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Thanks </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;/\A\n\d\y/ </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Andrew Evrovski </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Development Director </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Cyberplex Atlantic, Halifax, NS </FONT>
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Agreed.   Not only the CPOs but also the spinner kits(!) and he's been a good
contributor to this forum.

I had asked Steven Gregory if he was planning on doing Gravitar, BW,  BZ, and
OR
overlays but he did not see that happening in the near/far future.   Perhaps,
if Roy
is getting out of the "business", he could strike up a deal with Steven to use
his art
files to make these CPOs (if there is still interest)?

Since my Chumblespuzz Gravitar CPO was "lost" in the mail, I'm out cash and
my game could still use a nice overlay ... so my vote is "yey" for this to
happen.

SPW
kanata, on
canada

Eric Clayberg wrote:

> Roy,
>
> >Well, what can I say but sorry.
>
> Nothing to apologize for, Roy. You're the best!!
>
> You've gone way beyond the call of duty for many of us here (myself
> included), and I will never be able to properly thank you enough for all of
> your efforts.
>
> -Eric
>
> VAPS: http://www.vaps.org/members/ma/clayberg .html
> Arcade: http://www.smalltalksystems.com/clayberg/arcade/arcade.htm
>

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I can help with the production of the CPOs.


On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:23:13 -0400, chumblespuzz wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Well, what can I say but sorry.
>
>I've spent all weekend privately emailing all parties I've promised
>something to and I hope all issues have been addressed.
>
>I focused almost soley on producing CPOs for esoteric vector games,
>primarily based on individual needs for fellow vector list members. I did
>this as a way of trying to contribute back to the community that has help me
>out on so many occasions in the past.
>
>I spent a lot of time, effort and money trying to produce these CPOs. The
>problems I've had with my printer have cost me a lot to try to resolve and
>have been really frustrating. The thing that pisses me off is that it's not
>because of my lack of ability to do the art - the problems have been out my
>my contol.
>
>In any case, I tried expanding my hobby into CPO production and it didn't
>work out. I hope didn't piss too many people off with the way things have
>gone. I've done my best, but in the end this is just a hobby for me. As such
>it has taken a back seat to more pressing life issues.
>
>If anyone has any open, unaddressed business with me, please email me at
>chumblespuz . If anyone with better production capabilities is
>interested in my artwork, please email me as well.
>
>Thanks for your understanding,
>-roy-
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark E Davidson" <Burbs1@concentric.net>
>To: <vectorlist >
>Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 4:40 PM
>Subject: Re: VECTOR: chumblespuzz overlays?
>
>
>> I know him so Ill speak in his behalf to the best of my abilities. Roy has
>6
>> overlays that I bought off of him last year that he needed back to go
>through
>> the laminator again, Seems he was having problems with the over coat
>lamination
>> he was using so se wanted to re-roll them. I also have him my Space Duel
>to
>> Major Havoc overlay to be reproduced. I too had not heard from him until
>> recently. Here is what he said
>>
>> Hi Mark!
>>
>> Things have been crazy for me lately. I've pretty much put the game thing
>on
>> hold. My last website update was in January, I haven't fixed any new games
>> in months, and I haven't even been online checking emails.
>>
>> I'm working for a pre-IPO company and it's taking all my time. My
>daughters
>> ask me each morning if I will be home that evening in time to kiss them
>good
>> night. Most nights I'm not.
>>
>> In any case, I'm trying to get back to the hobby. My time is tight but I
>> have a lot of promises to keep and I don't want people being any more
>pissed
>> off at me.
>>
>> So, I still have your CPOs, and I have run them back through the
>laminator.
>> There's not guarantee that they'll be better, but I hope so.
>>
>> I haven't done anything with the SD/MH CPO because I am not happy with the
>> quality of the CPOs my printer has made lately. He just found a new
>laminate
>> (similar to the one you showed me at the last auction) and I will be
>> installing a test CPO later this week. If it works, great, if not, I'm out
>> of the CPO business.
>>
>> However, I did promise you an SD/MH CPO. If I can't produce the CPO
>myself,
>> I would be happy to do the art and send it to you (in Corel format) to
>print
>> at your printer. I'll let you know how things go in the next few days.
>>
>> Anyway, I happy to hear that your Turbo underlay worked out. Have you
>> embarked on any other projects since?
>>
>> Also, I heard your baby was in for an operation. I hope all worked out ok.
>>
>> ttys,
>> -roy-
>>
>> SO the bottom line is that Roy is working on it and if it is any
>testimonial,
>> My Black Widow overlay has been on for about a year, and still looks
>great!
>>
>> Also, Thanks to all who wished my son well before his heart surgery,
>Everything
>> went great (although its still upsetting to the parents) and he is back to
>> "Dad, I want to play the TREE GAME"  which to a 3 year old means Crystal
>> Castles.... Or do I have to post that to the Raster list list :-)
>>
>> -=Mark=-
>>
>> jason Milsom wrote:
>>
>> >    I hope this is considered appropriate for the vectorlist. Seems like
>> > it is since this was the primary target audience of Chumblespuzz's
>> > reproduction overlays.
>> >
>> >    I ordered two Black Widow overlays from Roy Kaplan (Chumblespuzz). At
>> > first they looked great but after about 6 months the colors bled
>> > together and they looked awful. I had not applied them yet so I returned
>> > them to Roy who was amazed and said he would replace them. It has been
>> > several months and I haven't seen or heard anything from him. He does
>> > not answer my e-mails. This is not an attempt to slander Roy. I'm just
>> > wondering if anyone here has had the same problem? Does anyone know him?
>> > or know what's going on with him?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Jason Milsom
>> >
>> > http://community.webtv.net/MILSOM44/MilsomsPuband
>> >
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Ok, I'm making a little progress on this one...  I've found out that my
deflection board is a WG V2000 (thanks Chris), however the HV unit is
definitely Electrohome (no wonder I was confused).

I have not powered the game up yet (other things need maintenance as well),
however, now I'm wondering about the compatibility between the WG and
Electrohome components: are they interchangeable?

Finally, anyone know where I can pick up a WG 15/19V2000 monitor manual?  If
not, how about a link to a PDF somewhere?

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-vectorlist ]On Behalf Of Bret Pehrson
> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2000 8:17 PM
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>
> I'm in the process of bringing my Asteroids Deluxe CT out of
> retirement, and
> have some monitor board issues to work through.
>
> First off, I noticed that on this amp board, there is a cement resistor in
> position R100, where on my UR there is no such beast (position
> yes, resistor
> no).  Most of the markings have worn off, but it looks like it is
> 3.? ohms,
> testing (in circuit) reads ~5.4 ohms.  I can't find a reference to either
> R100 or R101 in either of my G05 manuals (issue 1 and 2), and was
> wondering
> if anyone knows anything about R100 and its purpose in life.
>
> Thanks
>
> ---
> Bret Pehrson
> mailto:bret 
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I believe the V2000 monitor was only available as a 19" monitor, so it may be difficult to find a 15V2000 manual.  There is a 19V2000 manual available on spies (http://www.spies.com/arcade).

Jon

At 01:16 PM 9/5/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>Ok, I'm making a little progress on this one...  I've found out that my
>deflection board is a WG V2000 (thanks Chris), however the HV unit is
>definitely Electrohome (no wonder I was confused).
>
>I have not powered the game up yet (other things need maintenance as well),
>however, now I'm wondering about the compatibility between the WG and
>Electrohome components: are they interchangeable?
>
>Finally, anyone know where I can pick up a WG 15/19V2000 monitor manual?  If
>not, how about a link to a PDF somewhere?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-vectorlist 
> > [mailto:owner-vectorlist ]On Behalf Of Bret Pehrson
> > Sent: Monday, September 4, 2000 8:17 PM
> > To: Vector
> > Subject: VECTOR: AD Deflection Amp Qs
> >
> >
> > I'm in the process of bringing my Asteroids Deluxe CT out of
> > retirement, and
> > have some monitor board issues to work through.
> >
> > First off, I noticed that on this amp board, there is a cement resistor in
> > position R100, where on my UR there is no such beast (position
> > yes, resistor
> > no).  Most of the markings have worn off, but it looks like it is
> > 3.? ohms,
> > testing (in circuit) reads ~5.4 ohms.  I can't find a reference to either
> > R100 or R101 in either of my G05 manuals (issue 1 and 2), and was
> > wondering
> > if anyone knows anything about R100 and its purpose in life.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > ---
> > Bret Pehrson
> > mailto:bret 
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I remember a while back people were talking about using a G05 that used a different pinout on the deflection board.  I came across a temporary G05 manual this weekend that had the schematics for this version that I will be putting online soon (I forgot to bring it to work today).  I'm also have someone put together a small doc that explains how to mod this for use with a newer rev G05.  Am I right in thinking that you simply change the keyed pin and cut the trace for ground?

Jon

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Thanks, much appreciated!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Loggans [mailto:chris.loggans ]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2000 1:26 PM
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> 
> 
> Bret,
> 
>     Here you go, this is the link you need:
> 
> http://www.coinoptech.com/tech/page02.html
> 
> -Chris 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: vectorlist 
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> Subject: MORE: VECTOR: AD Deflection Amp Qs
> 
> Ok, I'm making a little progress on this one...  I've found out that my
> deflection board is a WG V2000 (thanks Chris), however the HV unit is
> definitely Electrohome (no wonder I was confused).
> 
> I have not powered the game up yet (other things need maintenance as
> well),
> however, now I'm w